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Old Mar 26, 2006, 5:35 PM   #11
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Thanks for all the help. I'll go out armed withthe info and checkthem allout.
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Old Mar 26, 2006, 8:23 PM   #12
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I have the Canon 10-22 and I love it. Never used the others, so I can't comment on them... There is a bit of difference between the 10mm and the 12mm. 10mm equals 16mm with the 1.6 factor, where 12mm is 19.2mm. In the wide angle range, this makes a bit of a difference.
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Old Apr 3, 2006, 10:18 PM   #13
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I was looking at the Canon, the Tokina, the Sigma, and the Tamron...

Chose the Tokina after taking some test shots at the B&H counter. I posted the Canon @ 10mm and the Tokina @ 12mm just to get a feel for the 2mm view difference - didn't take any care for settings so just use this to gauge the range of view between a 10mm and 12mm lens.

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Old Apr 4, 2006, 2:01 PM   #14
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As has been stated, theCanon 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 EF-S USM is the best wide angle zoom on the market today and it is less than $700.
http://www.buydig.com/shop/product.aspx?sku=CN1022USM

You can get the Tokina 12-24mm for less than $500
http://www.buydig.com/shop/product.aspx?sku=TK1224CA

The Tokina is heavier and not a Canon or Nikon, however neither Canon or Nikon are 50% better for 50% more in price.

You can have great wide angle zoom for less than $500.

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Old Apr 7, 2006, 11:56 PM   #15
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Well I haven't bought one yet, but I have decided on the Canon EFS 10-22. Towards the end of April in Sydney there is a photo imaging show on and will go along to that and see if I can pick one up at a reasonable price. Thanks for all the help.
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Old Apr 8, 2006, 5:43 AM   #16
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The angle of view on the canon 10mm is 107.

http://www.fredmiranda.com/reviews/s...=27&page=2

The angle of view of the sigma 12-24mm EX is 122

http://www.fredmiranda.com/reviews/s...=37&page=2



while the sigma 15-30 is 110

http://www.fredmiranda.com/reviews/s...=37&page=1

So even though something has the shortest focal length doesnt mean it is the widest. You can use software to straighten out fisheye distortion. Its normally a lot cheaper to buy lenses from the US than to buy them retail in Australia




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Old Apr 10, 2006, 1:42 AM   #17
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I really have no faith in lens coming through the mail system.Plus, no Australian warranty.If there'sa problem, it has to go back to the States, at my expense.I'll give this show a go at the end of the month.If I do no good there,I'll go back to the cheapest dealer that Ifound in Sydney.

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Old Apr 10, 2006, 10:00 AM   #18
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The chances of anything happening through the post are virtually non existent, dont forget that cameras get to the stores by the same methods, so they are no more likely to be damaged by the mail. They are covered by insurance, and as long as you buy from an authorized dealer they are covered by international warranty so in most cases can be handled by a local agent. Sigma for instance have all lenses sent to melbourne. Even if you did have to send one overseas and lenses are quite reliable so its not that likely, you are still going to come out way in front, i bought a lens that cost $400 delivered from an authrized dealer, that sold as the cheapest in Australia for well over a thousand. Buy four or five lenses and you are talking about quite a big difference, and you would have to be mighty unlucky to get all that were duds.
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You've almost convinced me to give it a go. But I think I will wait a couple of weeks till the show is on in Sydney and make a final decision then. Thanks for your help.
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Old Apr 11, 2006, 2:23 AM   #20
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What are the details of the show, my daughter is doing photography at school and might like to go?

You do realize that fate dictates that if you were to try the internet to buy something that you would automatically have something go horribly wrong just to prove me wrong.

I was very wary about trying eBay for the first time, thought I was going to be robbed blind, so far I havent but you have to do a lot of research first, there are a lot of sharks, not necessarily on eBay.

There are a couple of shops that sell cheaper on the internet than they do in store and you can pick up in person. Camera house was selling the 30D for about 200.00 less than they were in store. You could go into their store, ask all about it, then at the last minute go next door to an internet cafe to place the order and you save $200. The other is digital city.
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