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Old Jun 3, 2006, 1:43 PM   #1
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Hi,

thinking to change a regular Canon EOS350D kit lens with ???

here I need your help.....

I looked at the prices in my country and here what I find acceptable for me:

EF 20mm f2.8=350eur or 245 USD

EF 28-135mm f3.5-5.6 IS USM = 400 EUR = 280 USD

EF 75-300mm 4-5.6 IS USM = 450 eur= 329 USD

This is the range of prices acceptable for me.

Mostly I do people shootingand some nature.

In this price range should I look for some other models or you could just suggest me what to pick of those here.

Also I like to shoot with wide lens. Take that into consider.

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Old Jun 4, 2006, 8:52 PM   #2
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None of those on your list is as wide as your 18-55mm kit lens, so if you want wide angle, you have a couple choices: Keep your kit lens for wide angle and get something else to supplement; or get something like the 17-85mm or 17-40mm or even a Tamron or Sigma 18-200mm superzoom.

The lenses you listed are all good, but they are all very different. If you can get the 28-135 for the equivalent of 280 USD, that is an excellent price for that lens, which while not wide enough for all-purpose use, it is a good lens andin my experienceis very good for portraits.

70-300--what kind of nature shooting do you want? This lens is too short for most bird photography. Too long for portraits. However, as a supplement to your 18-55, it is a nice extension of your range.

20mm F2.8. According to what I have read--and what I have experienced--the 350D does not focus well with fast lenses. I have done extensive testing with cameras on a tripod using a cable release and fixed targets. With fast lenses, the 350D will refocus on every shot, with about one in three being proper focus. Same lenses on the 20D and the focus locks and stays in place. There is an article which has been quoted to me but I couldn't find it (it's in German) explaining how the 350D autofocus was optimized for slower lenses like the 17-85mm F4-F5.6 and such. When I use it with the 50mm F1.8 or 35mm F2, it is hopeless, and it is not much better with the 100mm F2.8 macro. I have sent the camera and lenses to Canon Factory Service (aka Canon Clean and Lube) with no improvement. The 20D on the other hand, has an AF enhanced mode when used with lenses of F2.8 or faster!

So there you go. If you are looking to not have to change lenses much, an 18-200mm might fill the bill. I have a friend who uses the Tamron 18-200 almost exclusively, except when in low light where he uses the Sigma 30mm F1.4.
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Old Jun 7, 2006, 11:00 AM   #3
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now I have to change the price as I was very wrong when converting the eur to USD....sorry.....


EF 20mm f2.8=350eur or430 USD

EF 28-135mm f3.5-5.6 IS USM = 400 EUR =490 USD

EF 75-300mm 4-5.6 IS USM = 450 eur=551 USD

This is the range of prices acceptable for me.


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Old Jun 7, 2006, 12:40 PM   #4
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Your needs and budget sound pretty similar to mine. I have the EF 12-135mm, and am very pleased with it. For a longer zoom, the EF 75-300mm IS has receivedsome poor reviews. The newer Ef 70-300 IS gives higher quality images for about the same price. It also hasthe upgraded IS with a panning mode.



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Old Jun 7, 2006, 3:24 PM   #5
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Hi Zak,

Hello, it's a long time since I have written to you. I've been busy! :-) But that's good.

Anyway, about your question (and yes, I noticed you got the currency conversion rates wrong the first time round, it's good you corrected it!)

I have the Canon 28-135mm, and it is a sharp and good lens. It is my walkaround lens, and I love it. IS is handy for about 2 fstops extra. It is amazing how much extra zoom you get from 55mm to 135mm! And I think you will appreciate it for your portrait work too, at f5.6 at zooms from say 70mm - 135mm it works great and you can get a decent background blur if you know how....

I would KEEP the kit lens as a wide angle option (which is what I do too). For daytime landscapes especially I find the kit lens it is often adequate as you can stop to f11 no problems which is sharp on the kit lens.

The combination of camera and 28-135mm lens work very well for me, and I think that will do well for you too. And I find ISO 400 and ISO800 are fine on the Canon 350D and even when I need to use ISO1600 it's quite suitable, especially when running through noise reduction software.

Hope this is helpful... and I hope you do well in your decision making. Let us know the outcome.

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Yes, long time... too busy too.....I have not posted so long that I'm afraid that may forget to picture......

Thanks for advises ...... well I'm thinking of 28-135 but will se what will do as I'm also thinking of buying external flash and for both will be hard to make money...

Thanks anyway....
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I was going to mention that Euro to dollar conversion. Did you consider the Tamron 28-75mm? You could still keep your kit for the extreme wide end. I am not a big fan of the EF 75-300mm.
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Yes, you are right.... I was planning to ask should I ever consider another manufacturer like Sigma, Tokina or Tamron lenses.....I did a little investigation and find some interesting for me. Basically I would use them for portraits to improve the kit lens.

What do you think of these:

Sigma 17-70mm f2.8-4.5 ..... 380 USD

Tamron AF 28-75mm f2.8 XR DI LD...... 380USD

or should I go with Canon

18-85mm f4-5.6 IS USM......... 525 USD

28-135mm f3.5-5.6 IS USM .... 512 USD

Thanks
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To replace my 350's kit lens, I went with the Tamron 19mm-35mm.

Excellent lens, excellent price.
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Between the Sigma and Tamron, I would (did) go with the Tamron. Keep in mind that if you choose the EFS 17-85mm, you are replacing the kit lens vs adding to. At $525 the EFS 17-85mm is close in price to the $625 Canon EF 17-40mm which is a really good lens. Overall, For the value and known quality; I would go with the Tamron 28-75mm and also add the Canon EF 50mm.
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Yes, you are right.... I was planning to ask should I ever consider another manufacturer like Sigma, Tokina or Tamron lenses.....I did a little investigation and find some interesting for me. Basically I would use them for portraits to improve the kit lens.

What do you think of these:

Sigma 17-70mm f2.8-4.5 ..... 380 USD

Tamron AF 28-75mm f2.8 XR DI LD...... 380USD

or should I go with Canon

18-85mm f4-5.6 IS USM......... 525 USD

28-135mm f3.5-5.6 IS USM .... 512 USD

Thanks
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