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Old Aug 21, 2003, 10:19 AM   #11
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So you don't have to squat when taking pics at waist height.
Okay, that's a point. but I don't have problems with that.
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Old Aug 21, 2003, 11:10 AM   #12
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and what the hell is the flipping lcd good for?
If you take a veritical shot with the left side of the camera down, you can change the angle of the LCD so that you can see what you are about to shoot while you are squatting down instead of hoping for the best. Is really beneficial when trying to take picture of kids/babies playing on the floor.
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Old Aug 21, 2003, 11:37 AM   #13
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okay. you convinced me.
But I don't think the price of 500 bucks is justified, just for that additional megapixel and the lcd.
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Old Aug 21, 2003, 12:14 PM   #14
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1) 9 point AIAF
2) Zoom in manual focus mode
3) histogram display on picture playback

Couple that with 4 MP and a flip out lcd screen, and I'm sold. Yeah, so I just bought an A70 back in May; at least I got an extended warranty with it, and it should fetch a good price.

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(oh yeah, less signal to noise because of the reduced CCD size)
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Old Aug 21, 2003, 12:20 PM   #15
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1) 9 point AIAF
In my opinion the AiAf is almost useless. It focuses things you don't want to focus very often. I know that from my Canon A60, and I turned it off. The result is: better, sharper pictures.
So a 9 Point AiAf is not really a big progress... there are 9 fields which can now focus 9 times worse
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Old Aug 21, 2003, 12:45 PM   #16
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OK, then consider this.

The Canon S400 Digital Elph doesn't Shutter Priority, Aperature Priiority, Portrait-Landscape-Fast shutter presets, Custom saved settings (2 of them) or full manual control, the articulating LCD, or accessory lenses and uses a proprietary rechargable battery (not AA) but costs the same as the A80.

I would say that the A80 has a lot more value for the dollar in a comparble sized package (the S400 is only about 1/2 inch smaller in width, but fractions of an inch smaller otherwise).
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Old Aug 21, 2003, 12:57 PM   #17
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okay. compared to other series, it might be worth.
but compared to previous types (A60/70), I think, the price is too high.
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Yea, the price is too high. I would just save a lil more $$$ and get a G model.....

It looks like the lens adapters are different that the a60 a70 so an upgrade for me would not be worth it.

As far as it being just """"LESS""" than a MP difference doest make me want to change... 3.2 to 4.0....... However, ever lil bit counts.

The flip lens is a great option.

The 9 point AIAF is really only good for noobs or auto modeR'S
Maybe I dont know how to use it correctly

The Aiaf gives me noisey picks when the lcd looks clear as a bell. So, having more may help with points of focus.... Or the technology of canons aiaf software is better flashed onto the new a80??

I would say save more $$ and go with a G model.

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okay. compared to other series, it might be worth.
but compared to previous types (A60/70), I think, the price is too high.
Fair enough. I however, find that I quite like the AIAF. Having 9 zones instead of (3?) is just going to compensate for my mistakes a bit better. YMMV.

The 4MP? I gain. Will I use it? Dunno. Maybe, maybe not. Guess I'll have to buy a bigger CF card if I switch.

The flipout LCD. A definate plus for me. I take a lot of macro shots, and this does make it easier on me.


The hisogram display? Well, I'd rather have it live.

The zoom in manual focus. Again, I take a lot of macro's so a big plus.

smaller CCD, and therefore better S/N ratio....again, a big plus.

I'll have to see some real world photo's and read some reviews, but I'm sold. That having been said, I'll nto buy one unless I can sell my A70.

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Having 9 zones instead of (3?)
It's 6 zones as far as i know. I used it in the beginning, but i recognized, that pictures are far better without the AiAf.
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