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bulls3y3 Mar 28, 2010 4:35 PM

External flash or diffuser for the canon dslr xsi?
 
Just wondering which of the 2 in the subject line is worth getting for the canon xsi? If the external flash is the way to go, which brand and type do you recommend for this camera?

Thx

shoturtle Mar 28, 2010 4:41 PM

A good flash will help out the xsi in low light. The canon ex 420 II is a good option, in you want to save a little bit and have more range the mezt 48 AF1 is just as good as the canon, and you can do firmware updates so it can be used with newer models.

If you really want to save some money the nissin DI622 seems to be a pretty nice flash there is a thread about it.
http://forums.steves-digicams.com/fl...22-review.html

I use sto fen defuser on my flash. They are not that expensive. Will help soften the light.

bulls3y3 Apr 6, 2010 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shoturtle (Post 1071756)
A good flash will help out the xsi in low light. The canon ex 420 II is a good option, in you want to save a little bit and have more range the mezt 48 AF1 is just as good as the canon, and you can do firmware updates so it can be used with newer models.

If you really want to save some money the nissin DI622 seems to be a pretty nice flash there is a thread about it.
http://forums.steves-digicams.com/fl...22-review.html

I use sto fen defuser on my flash. They are not that expensive. Will help soften the light.


Thanks for that, looks like a good choice for someone on a budget on amateur like me

Cheers

ac.smith Jul 26, 2010 1:06 PM

Really the effectiveness of any diffuser is directly related to its size so no attempt to diffuse the built in flash will be terribly successful simply there simply isn't enough physical space to create a large diffuser. Even a diffuser for a hot shoe mounted external flash is space limited. If, however the external flash is remoted from the camera then the space limitation is largely removed and there are numerous commercial and DIY diffuser/reflectors that are effective.

Actually the most effective use of a sto-fen type diffuser, I think, is what JohnG does, a sto-fen with the flash in bounce mode with the diffuser. In essence he's creating a diffused bare bulb which provides bounce flash plus direct light to fill shadows from the bounce.

Here is a thread which show the lack of effectiveness of small diffusers: http://forums.steves-digicams.com/ol...diffusers.html

A. C.

JohnG Jul 26, 2010 1:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ac.smith (Post 1122441)
, a sto-fen with the flash in bounce mode with the diffuser. In essence he's creating a diffused bare bulb which provides bounce flash plus direct light to fill shadows from the bounce.

Thanks A.C. Yep - that's exactly how the stofen is supposed to be used. My kit is bulky enough without getting into larger setups. I've also found that even when I can't bounce, I get better results leaving the flash at 45 degrees (with the omnibounce). Realize though - when you bounce and diffuse you lose light. So be very, very careful about buying a flash that won't have enough power.

So, buy a decent external flash in the power neighborhood at least of the 430exII and splurge $20 on a stofen.


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