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Old Jun 30, 2003, 5:44 PM   #1
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Can someone who actually has a flash that works with the Fuji S602 in AUTO mode tell me which flash you use? It's very confusing, therefore instead of recommending flashes that should work, I want to know one that actually works. Remember it must sync up to camera's settings in AUTO mode as does the built in flash.

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Old Jun 30, 2003, 9:15 PM   #2
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It’s impossible with the “normal way”, meaning using physical connection between the camera and the flash, the simple reason is that the camera doesn’t offer anyway to control the flash beside the only triggering signal. The hot shoe is a simple standard ISO hotshoe with a triggering pin.

http://www.steves-digicams.com/2002_...s602z_pg2.html
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The camera must be set to "external flash" when the hot shoe is used. The external flash must be the automatic type where you can dial in the ISO speed and aperture setting.
(automatic type : in case you are not familiar with the terms, automatic type means the flash adjust the output itself, based on the light reflected back to it’s own sensor, this kind of flash is also called “auto-thyristor” )



But, Padeye mentioned another way that could work if you want the camera control the flash for you:
http://www.stevesforums.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2183
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Ages ago I wondered why a slave unit couldn't be made to control flash output based on the duration of the original TTL controlled flash. Someone has done that. Ikelite has a digicam compatible underwater flash system that maintains TTL control without a physical connection to the camera inside the housing. The slaved flash mimics the output of the built in flash which essentially completes the feedback loop. Non-dedicated flash with full TTL control. I wonder what it would take to do the same with a Metz.

http://www.ikelite.com/web_pages/lite_link.html
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… Any change in Flash Mode settings (Manual, Repeating or Non-TTL Auto) to the "on-camera" flash will also be emulated automatically by the TTL Slave flash. …
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Old Jul 10, 2003, 1:41 AM   #3
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Here's what I'm using on my S602:

Sunpak Auto 266D Flash (Olympus/Pentax dedicated)-----$47

Olympus FL-BK01 Flash Bracket-----------------------------------$55

Olympus FL-CB05 Flash Cable-------------------------------------$60

Not only does this rig work like a charm, but it looks great too!
The first thing you must do, is go into your S602's menu, and set the External Flash setting to On. No external flash unit will work on this camera in Full Auto Mode. You have to use either "A" or "M" exposure setting. You can try "S" or "P", but Fuji recommends the former. Turn the camera off. Screw the bracket into the bottom of the camera. Slide the adapter end of the cable into the camera's hot shoe, with the arrow facing the lens. Attach the other end of the cable to the bracket's hot shoe. Attach the flash unit to the cable's hot shoe. Turn on the camera, then the flash. Set the camera's ISO to 200 and the flash's ISO to 200. Adjust the focal length on the flash's zoom head, to match the focal length of the camera. In the camera's menu, set the White Balance to Custom and press OK. Then, take a sheet of white paper, and place it in front of the camera lens, filling the entire viewing area, and fire the camera. Press OK and you will now have your White Balance for external flash set. (See page 57 of the S602 owner's manual)
If you don't want to use the Olympus bracket/cable, you can just use the camera's hot shoe. In theory, any other flash module (Minolta or Nikon) should work with this model flash. However, the Olympus rig looks very professional, and makes the camera a lot easier to hold, especially if you have large mitts like me!
I purchased all of the above from Amazon.com through their secondary retailer, Adorama, out of New York.

http://www.adorama.com/catalog.tpl?o...&sku=IOMFLBK01

http://www.adorama.com/catalog.tpl?o...&sku=IOMFLCB05

http://www.adorama.com/catalog.tpl?o...9&sku=SU266DPO
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Old Jul 10, 2003, 2:37 AM   #4
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Here's what my rig looks like!

http://www.msnusers.com/_Secure/0RwDOArIUuNGpbUUlZyLiz1BDxc5!0!rq4ky2CFyUTHNCbdvmb mFcqKQR!SCXNN3omv040SrjoIPhZAf9cz0TkeXv3qSnIVdCDCJ YzRCPGto/IMG_0008.jpg?dc=4675429651968271714
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Old Jul 10, 2003, 1:37 PM   #5
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In shelshock’s case , it’s not necessary to use the olympus cable ( necessary only to operate Olympus flash with all controls) , nor the Olympus bracket ( I find it a bit expensive … )
(I guess because TexasTurbo had those items already in hand ?)
For a total cost of near 200$, I would go for a used Metz 45CL-4
For less, I would go for a non dedicated flash , hot shoe mounted (Vivitar 285 for example)
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Old Jul 17, 2003, 10:10 AM   #6
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Texas Turbo -- how much does that weigh?

I've been looking for the Metz 45CL-4 and can't find it under 300....so I like your setup.
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Old Jul 17, 2003, 12:18 PM   #7
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Woops.....forget it, I just bought this
"METZ FLASH - 45 CL-4 WITH BRACKET, CORD, NI-CAD, CHARGER (GN148) / BOUNCE, SWIVEL" $199
(paid 25 more for the AA adapter )
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Woops.....forget it, I just bought this
"METZ FLASH - 45 CL-4 WITH BRACKET, CORD, NI-CAD, CHARGER (GN148) / BOUNCE, SWIVEL" $199
(paid 25 more for the AA adapter )
Great! This is one of the best (medium power) flashgun you could get. 200$ is a great deal, even if it’s a bit scratched .
Keep in mind that you can buy separately a battery rack holding 6 alkaline AA cells (for full backup)
If you can (and like) do a bit hand work, you can even replace the Ni-Cad cells (500mAh) with 6 new NiMH cells ( 2000 mAh and even more) to quadruple the autonomy of the flash.
http://www.pbase.com/kcan/metz4540_battery_pack
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Old Jul 17, 2003, 1:31 PM   #9
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Thanks. I figured for the little bit I am going to use it, less than perfect is fine!

Again thanks for the help.
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