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Old Sep 9, 2003, 10:05 PM   #1
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Default 7i Flash options - Just the facts

I have a 7i and the low light/indoor performance is pretty poor with the stock flash, either dark or grainy.

1) What options are there besides the minolta?

2) How do the Sigma compare?

3) What about the Metz?

Opinions would be appreciated, I'd like to buy this week, I'm mainly shooting indoors in lower light, Boudior type shots. I have no other flashes except the one on the camera and the one I'm about to buy. Why should I buy the Minolta over the Sigma, or vice a versa, and do I need the more expensive model, or will the lower cost model do the job?
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The Sigma 500 DG Super is priced much less than the Minolta, and still keeps the wireless feature... It also has the higher guide# of the 5600HS(D).

The less expensive Minolta 3600HS(D) has a smaller guide#, and lacks the rear digital LCD panel, but has LEDs instead... It also does not have the modeling light or high-speed strobes features of it bigger brother.

KCan here made an adapter for his Metz, and several of us have found good used price on the 45 series... not all of them can do TTL though with the D7i; However the automatic mode of the flash work just as well most of the time! Several others do have TTL and wireless as well, but they cost as much if not more than the Minolta's with even more features like dual-head... Notably the 54MZ-3 for example

For boudoir lighting... IMO, you are better off with Tungsten lamps! ie warmer tone (or use gold reflectors on the flashes) :P
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Hi,
Thanks for the reply, you mentioned

"For boudoir lighting... IMO, you are better off with Tungsten lamps! ie warmer tone (or use gold reflectors on the flashes)"

Can you elaborate on this? What would you recomend for Tungsten lamps, or gold reflectors? I'm on a limited budget.
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Flash color temperature is usually too cool (bluish) and make skin pale in color... (although it can be made to work with a gold cast reflector). Tungsten or incandescent sources are warmer (yellow/reddish) making it more romantic... ? Beside it's easier to work with hot lamps since you can see the effects of the shadow casts without requiring the modeling light!

... and you don't even have to break the bank:
http://www.adorama.com/catalog.tpl?o...457&sku=SVK61U
http://www.adorama.com/catalog.tpl?o...57&sku=NR51500
http://www.adorama.com/catalog.tpl?o...1457&sku=PFSK3

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BTW

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I have a 7i and the low light/indoor performance is pretty poor with the stock flash, either dark or grainy.
Nothing is written anywhere that you can't use the built-in flash in combination with Tunsten lights... This is what I just dug out from my archive: shot with the D7 built-in flash and Tungsten!





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> Nothing is written anywhere that you can't use the built-in
> flash in combination with Tunsten lights...


If those are studio tungs, I'd suggest using blue filters
over them to balance them toward the color temp of flash.
If they're just room tungs, be careful.

When you mix light sources with different color spectra, the
shadows may have wierd colors, as they may be unlit by one
of the light sources.

I've done a lot of product photos (eBay auctions) with my
PoS digicam that won't focus in low light, so I have to leave
the room lights on (fluorescent), and the resulting shadows
are really ugly, since they're only lit by the fluors.

By shooting against a gray towel, I can at least select the
entire background (shadows 'n all) and desaturate it.
Otherwise those greenish-yellowish-barfy shadows would
be detractingly distracting.

Of course, tungsten shadows aren't nearly as ugly as
fluorescent shadows.
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I have a 7i and the low light/indoor performance is pretty poor with the stock flash, either dark or grainy.
Nothing is written anywhere that you can't use the built-in flash in combination with Tunsten lights... This is what I just dug out from my archive: shot with the D7 built-in flash and Tungsten!





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Was it the photo you dug out of the closet or the girl?????????????
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