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Old Aug 18, 2002, 11:11 PM   #11
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Make sure you in fact get the M3 version. The first responses I got from B&H were that they had the 3302 but it was the version that only works on film cameras.
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Old Aug 18, 2002, 11:29 PM   #12
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Yeah thanks , anyway, I have not paid yet , I order from a store.

BTW, the adapter give you ADI, not TTL . I guess because digicam need a preflash to compute TTL from what I read lately , is that what you understand ?
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Old Aug 19, 2002, 1:05 AM   #13
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Right, it's not TTL in the same sense as a film camera but pre-flash TTL. The Metz site has a chart that shows what modes work with the flash/adapter/camera combination.
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Old Aug 21, 2002, 7:57 PM   #14
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If you are in ADI mode , can you use the Metz for bouncing , or any situation other than direct flash? I guess we would have an incorrect flash "dosage" , right or wrong ?

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Not from the D7 manual, it says ADI still use information from pre-flash butis not influenced by the subject reflectance or background... It sounds to me like ADI is pre-flash TTL plus distance integration!

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Old Aug 21, 2002, 8:14 PM   #16
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If ADI use information from pre-flash, it cound't be fouled by lens filter or flash difuser , right?

But, with the Metz adapter on, the on board flash is disabled ( physically condemned too) , so will there be a preflash from the Metz ?? ....
No preflash of the Metz means it's only "calculated guess" of the Metz power to deliver ?

May be I should ask Metz this question
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With a HS5600D the built-in flash doesn't fire, but the HS5600D does a pre-flash in both ADI and pre-flash TTL. I would expect the same thing would happen with the Metz... How else would the D7(i) measure this light pulse but using it's internal CCD?

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Old Aug 21, 2002, 9:58 PM   #18
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That makes sense , I will ask Metz .

I received my adapter , by it was the wrong one ( 3302M unstead of 3302 M3) .
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Old Aug 26, 2002, 4:15 PM   #19
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For the records/info , more info from Metz adapter with 45CT-4 ( and CL-4 ?)

Quote:
Dear (..)
for the connection of a Metz 45CT-4 to Dimage7i we recommend to use the
adapter SCA3302 version M3 (version M & M2 doesn't fit, version M1
doesn't exist). Unfortunately, an up-date from M or M2 to M3 is not
possible. In this case, the adapter has to replaced completely. In the
combination as mentioned above, the ADI is possible as well. Please
not,
when filters are attached to the lens or the reflector head or working
in bounce flash mode, ADI is cancelled like with original Minolta flash
unit. In this case, the camera has to be set on "pre flash TTL" in its
menu.

With best regards

M E T Z - W E R K E
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Old Aug 26, 2002, 6:11 PM   #20
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Well that's right from the horse's mouth. Interesting that Bogen says they can upgrade the previous 3302 adapters at no cost. It verifies what I suspected about ADI. It's an automatied version of doing what guide numbers do but when you bounce or add modifiers the whole system goes out the window. ADI might be useful for some subjects but I rarely shoot with the flash head straight forward.

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Dear Steve,
Thank you for the interest in the Metz flash system and using it
with your Minolta Dimage 7 camera. We are just getting in the adapters with
the M3 version modification built into them. But if you have a SCA-3302 M or
M2 version you my send it to my attn and I will update it for free. It takes
a one day turn around.

The Address:
Bogen Photo Cor.
C/O Les Brown
I'm going to check back and tell him of Metz's reply



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