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Old Dec 12, 2003, 11:34 AM   #1
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Default Metz flash for FZ10 !! need help please!!

Hello everybody !
I want to buy an external flash for my FZ10...
I would like to know if the metz flash like 36AF-3C or 44MZ2 will work with the FZ10 ?!?

http://www.metz.de/1_metz_2000/m_pag...name=mecablitz

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Old Dec 12, 2003, 11:47 AM   #2
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Any Metz or not-Metz flash will work ( with a low trigger voltage of course) in manual and auto mode (if the flash offers it). You can’t have external flash automatically controlled by the camera (dedicated flash) because the camera hotshoe does not have control signals for that purpose.
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Old Dec 12, 2003, 12:07 PM   #3
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thanks KCan for the answer !
so what is the problems if there i can't control the flash by the camera ? so if i buy a metz flash i need to setup the flash before?
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Old Dec 12, 2003, 12:08 PM   #4
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and ps: how can i know if the flash i want have a low trigger voltage?!?

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Old Dec 12, 2003, 5:21 PM   #5
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Flysurfing,
There is no real “problem” with that. You don’t have the advantage of flash automatic control, that’s all (that’s what people means by “TTL control” of flashes, read: camera controlled flash output).
You have the choices of manual mode and “auto” mode .

- Manual mode: you, calculate the exposure depending on distance to subject , flash GN , and all the tralala … , then set the aperture and speed of the camera accordingly . It’s very tedious , let this for pros and people having lot of time (not me, hehe)

- Auto mode: we call it “auto” because it came from the “auto-thyristor” appellation of flashes which have an on board sensor , controlling the flash output to meet an aperture opening. This is a quite simple mode ( although not as simple as the “all-everything” mode) .
You set the camera aperture to the same of the flash setting, you set the camera speed to suit the background illumination need , and bingo, the subject is perfectly lit and the background at your taste.
Myself I use this mode with my Metz 45 on my Minolta D7i, because I did not buy the dedicated module.
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About trigger voltage, an old thread:
http://www.stevesforums.com/phpBB2/v...ic.php?t=10073

most modern flashes have low trigger voltage, but it’s a good thing to check it (via the website link, or measuring it yourself)
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Old Dec 13, 2003, 4:15 AM   #7
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ok KCan
so i think i will buy the 36AF3, but there is no informations about it on your page !
And i do not have the item to measuring myself the trigger voltage!
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Old Dec 13, 2003, 11:11 AM   #8
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Try this site.

http://www.botzilla.com/photo/strobeVolts.html

I don't see that one listed, so if you buy it make sure you test it before you use it.

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Old Dec 13, 2003, 12:28 PM   #9
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thanks !
but if i tried a flash with high voltage this can cause damage to the camera ?
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Flysurfing,
I am pretty sure the trigger voltage is safe with this flash, but in my opinion, this is not a good choice for your camera, here is why:

1) The 36AF-3(C/M/N) is a dedicated flash for Canon,Minolta or Nikon camera. If you use it with you camera, you won’t benefit anything , the AF infrared system is useless , and you lack manual mode and auto mode control . The only thing it does is a flash at full power and you have to use manual mode, no other choice. With a “Metz” , it’s a waste, unless you also have another Canon,Minolta or Nikon camera which can use the flash in dedicated mode.

2) If you like that Metz series, a better choice for you is the 36C-2 (cost much less) , which has 3 apertures auto mode settings , which is decent enough. You don’t have any power setting in manual mode though. This flash will let you more flexibility.

3) An interesting alternative to consider is other makes which offer more settings, just for example, the Vivitar 285HV is a popular flash having more settings:

http://abccamera.hypermart.net/flash2.htm

Vivitar 285HV Flash
Guide Number:120 (ISO 100/ft)
4 auto f/stop settings
Auto thyristor circuitry
Vertical bounce flash
Variable power control: 1/16,1/4,1/2
Remote sensor capability
Sufficient light indicator
Illuminated calculator dial
Power source: 4 AA batteries, NC-3 NiCad Battery or SB-4 110v AC adapter
Weight without batteries:14.9oz
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