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Old Mar 17, 2011, 2:09 PM   #11
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I would consider the Di866, but I don't know how much trouble the slow recycle times would be in real life.
Since I have never used an external flash in my life, my head is spinning...
Reading some specs it seems like Metz flashes are quite bigger than most other counterparts, while Canon is on the smallish side? Is there a reason for the increased height? Where can I buy the feet as I understand they come without them?
And a fill in card?(if I decide to go the Canon route)...
Would I miss (soon) the other features of the simpler units. Like Nissin di622 lack of HSS as well as Metz 44 af-1? The lack of manual zoom?
Sorry for so many questions... but I am trying to balance everything out...
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Old Mar 17, 2011, 3:01 PM   #12
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the metz 58 and 50 does come with feets. the older 48 does not, but the 50 is the 48's replacement.

The added size is really not that much when you put them side to side. The little extra height for hot shoe uses is actually a good thing, it gives greater red eye prevention. If the DI866 does not come with feet, ebay is a good source for 2 dollars with shipping. The di866 mk2 should be coming out soon, as they recently upgraded the di622 to the mkII model. The di622 are on the same level as the 430exii and metz 50. The metz 44 is different level then the di622.

But the metz 44 af-1 is super easy to use, a no brainer actually. Even simpler then the di622
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Old Mar 17, 2011, 4:50 PM   #13
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The Di866 does come with feet!

I'm not too worry about a MrkII because the Di866 like the Metz 58 can be upgraded via it's USB port... Main difference between the Metz 58AF-1 and 2 is the metal hot-shoe as I see it

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Old Mar 17, 2011, 7:04 PM   #14
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one quick question...
How important is HSS and what exactly does it do?
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Old Mar 17, 2011, 7:06 PM   #15
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hss lets you have shutter speeds faster then 1/200 or 1/250 depending on the camera.. It can be useful for shooting some indoor action stuff or other creative flash photography.
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I don't believe HSS is suited for action

The reason HSS is created is that a regular flash pulse is so short that it can not cover the whole travel of a camera shutter at high shutter speed, i.e. resulting in a partial frame (between the slit of a curtain opening while another closing)

-> HSS solves this by pulsing the flash output longer, but at a reduced power, hence not suited for far away subject or movement as it can cause a stroboscopic effect (check the flash manual as when the HSS function is enabled its GN is considerably reduced hence not suited for distance)
http://webs.lanset.com/rcochran/flash/hss.html

HSS is best used outdoor with fast lens so that a camera required a higher shutter speed so as not to overexpose which work best for filling light with portrait:
http://www.photosig.com/articles/318/article
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Actually I tired HSS for indoor dance, it does a very nice job for a single shot. Nice effect, will not work in burst mode, as it sucks up the capacitor.
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Wouldn't you be better off not using HSS?

A regular flash pulse is shorter than any higher shutter speed (and in itself will freeze any action) from the camera... So unless you're dragging your shutter to do a fill you shouldn't have any motion blur with the normal sync speed

-> The flash wouldn't have to suck up the capacitor as much as in HSS allowing it to work in burst then + you'll have a better reach with the regular mode
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normally i would, but i was experimenting. But HSS gives different results that looks kinda cool compare to a freeze shot with normal sync.
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Thanks to all for your help. I have ordered a canon 430 ex II. Should arrive tuesday. Let's see how it goes...
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