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Old Mar 14, 2011, 1:31 PM   #1
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Hi, I have been wanting to get a flash for a while. Been looking into:

Canon 430 ex II, will I miss the bounce card? Since it does not have a port, how can I trigger it off camera without spending 300+ on the ST-E2?

Metz 50 AF-1, comments? Is it really hard to use as some reviews have stated? So far I am leaning toward this. Since it comes without stand should I buy one?

Metz 44 AF-1, smaller, slightly cheaper, less functions, easier to use?

Nissin di622 MK II, good quality? What would I miss here?


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Old Mar 14, 2011, 6:21 PM   #2
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Hi, apo40 I am in the exact same situation... Have you been able to figure it out?
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Old Mar 14, 2011, 10:17 PM   #3
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The Nissin DI622 is a cost effective flash and works very well with Canon DSLR cameras. The build quality is excellent and the TTL interface works well with Canon DSLR cameras. The power output is very similar to the Canon EX430.

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Old Mar 15, 2011, 8:26 AM   #4
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I will second the nissin di622 it is agreat low cost option easy to use lots of power.
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Old Mar 15, 2011, 6:23 PM   #5
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But the nissin is the same price as the metz 50 af-1... or am I missing something? Sorry to high jack the thread..

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Old Mar 15, 2011, 6:42 PM   #6
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No problem marubex.
What about Yongnuos? I hear there is one e-ttl compatible? But I really don't know anything about them.
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Canon 430 ex II, will I miss the bounce card? Since it does not have a port, how can I trigger it off camera without spending 300+ on the ST-E2?
Unless you have a 7D, you'll need a flash which has a 'Master' function. The Nissin Di866 is a 'Master' and it will trigger the 430EX II which is a 'slave' only device

The Metz 58AF-1 and 2 are also 'Master' flashes... I wouldn't buy an ST-E2 alone (unless you need group C) as it is more effective to buy a 'Master' flash which can be both a flash and an ST-E2.
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Old Mar 15, 2011, 9:00 PM   #8
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Thank you NHL, how about one of those radio transmitters?

And regarding my original dilemma which one would you go with?

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maybe you are looking at the di622mk2
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Old Mar 16, 2011, 4:19 PM   #10
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Thank you NHL, how about one of those radio transmitters?
My take on this is do not spend to much on this (ditto with the Yongnuos):
http://commercialprphotographer.blog...elinchrom.html
-> Because by the time you get to two or three heads in Canon's (or Nikon) system you could afford a pretty decent set-up with the Alien Bee's which is 100 time more flexible (and powerful). I have the Elinchrom's and their Skyport too BTW...
http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/mul...=7-10053-10715


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And regarding my original dilemma which one would you go with?
I would go with the most powerful flash that you can afford:
1. One never uses a flash straight on because it's too harsh
2. By the time one bounces a flash or use some other light modifier like a softbox the smaller flash tend to be underwhelmed
3. A more powerful flash will recycle faster when it's only has to replenish some of its charge, whereas a smaller unit will take longer to re-energized when its capacitor is completely discharged

-> I would consider a Di866, a 58AF-1/2 (or 580EX and similar) as a bare minimum for 1st flash... If you get anything smaller then I'm pretty sure you'll be back for more (and you'll need at least one 'Master' anyway to make things works nicely together)
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