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Old Dec 21, 2004, 6:41 PM   #21
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Tacticalnuke,

Sorry I did not click about that detail before.:angry:
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Problem, the PC->Hotshoe (mounted on flash bracket) does NOT fit tightly. It is extremely loose.
It's because that bracket shoe doesn't have "springed" rails, and the adapter doesn't have a lock to tighten itself on a non "springed" rails

Those 2 ways you mentionedwill give a good fit:
1)
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...977&is=REG




Yes, this one will fit because it have a locking ring (same as you see on certain flash, may be not all model, BTW does yours has one ?) make it tight on a shoe without "springed" rails.

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http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...448&is=REG



Yes, this bracket have spring inside the rails, so it can receive a flash or an accessory without locking ring.

So you can choose item 1 to go with your actual bracket , or item 2 to go with your actual adapter


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http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...454&is=REG


This one is identical to the one you have already and I think don't have locking ring, so it's not an improvement .
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The PC->Hot is tapped for a screw at the bottom, but the flash bracket has no screw hole underneath its attachment to hold the pc->hot, and I don't have the capabilities to drill 1/4 inch metal.
No, this is not made to screw on a bracket, but to give you the possibility to fix it another way with a ¼ thread .

Sorry for your disappointment , but you are right, by buying at a local store , you could see and try right away your combination .

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Oh, I just checked, your flash in fact has a lock ring


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Old Dec 21, 2004, 7:07 PM   #22
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Now, the fact that my flash has a lock ring, does that mean I don't need any of this?

I assume I still do. I'll consider going with the new flash bracket. What I may do is just return it all, get my shipping money back, then wait until after the new year and see what my funds are like and how the flash performs.

At that point I'll go with Kaiser hot->pc on the camera, kama pc->hot and the bracket to which you linked. Then I'll have a spring-loaded bracket, locking pc->hot and a hot->pc that I know works.

Thank you for all the help.
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Old Dec 21, 2004, 7:35 PM   #23
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Now that the bracket didn't work out, I called my local Dodd Camera and they carry Lumiquest products.

I'm having them get the Softbox and 80/20, as well as the Promax System:

http://www.lumiquest.com/lq931.htm

I'm probably going to go with the Promax as it seems the most versatile (allowing for bounced light as well as allowing one to operate the 80/20 like a pocket bouncer). It's $60 at the store (At Amazon.com it's $50, so this isn't such a bad price at all) but I'm going to go and check it out. Hopefully this will work well for my needs.

After this I will look into the bracket, especially if this combo proves top-heavy (and it probably will).

Well thanks for all the help everyone.
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A personal though …
I never liked the idea using an extra mechanical link between a bracket and a flash , an extra weak link.
My flash has a home made plug on the side to connect directly to a Nikon ttl jack for the CP950 . I also had a Vivitar flash that has a jack and include a PC cord .
If I were you, I would manage to add a jack on the flash and connect a PC cord directly without using an adapter on the bracket side. It will make a mechanically more compact and strong ensemble, but of course, you have to do a little handiwork (drilling, soldering , etc …)
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KCan wrote:
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A personal though …
I never liked the idea using an extra mechanical link between a bracket and a flash , an extra weak link.
My flash has a home made plug on the side to connect directly to a Nikon ttl jack for the CP950 . I also had a Vivitar flash that has a jack and include a PC cord .
If I were you, I would manage to add a jack on the flash and connect a PC cord directly without using an adapter on the bracket side. It will make a mechanically more compact and strong ensemble, but of course, you have to do a little handiwork (drilling, soldering , etc …)

Hmm, interesting. So basically I'd only have the adapter on the camera side (hot->pc) and would lose the pc->hot adapter on the bracket side and connect the flash directly onto the flash bracket?

I'd need a PC cord, but that shouldn't be too hard.

Well thank you for the idea and all the help. If/when I go that route I'll consider that as an option. I think it sounds a LOT better.

It'd be nice if they just made brackets with a female PC part of the bracket, then you have a hotshoe on the handle for the flash, and it connects directly like that.

Then again, in a perfect world, Taco Bell would be a food group.
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Look at this:
http://www.adorama.com/SUBG.html?sea...pak-Basic-Grip
looks like the shoe is "hot" and the PC cord is included

Hey,it says the "Supplied with PC cord"
http://www.adorama.com/SU383.html?searchinfo=sunpak
does your sunpak come already with a PC cord?



Oh yes, I see the jack on the side here:

http://www.adorama.com/images/large/SU383.jpg


So forget the adapter on the bracket side, your flash is supposed to includea PC cord already.
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KCan wrote:
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Look at this:
http://www.adorama.com/SUBG.html?sea...pak-Basic-Grip
looks like the shoe is "hot" and the PC cord is included

Hey,it says the "Supplied with PC cord"
http://www.adorama.com/SU383.html?searchinfo=sunpak
does your sunpak come already with a PC cord?



Oh yes, I see the jack on the side here:

http://www.adorama.com/images/large/SU383.jpg


So forget the adapter on the bracket side, your flash is supposed to includea PC cord already.


So you're telling that because my flash has screw-down clamps and because it has a PC cord, I don't even need the pc->hot?

Darn, I wish I had done my homework (obviously not your fault) and gone with a better bracket. Hmm, I may just keep the bracket and send back the pc->hot.


Then again, I may just send it all back and get this stuff later, after I see how it all works out. That way I know what I'm doing now (sort of anyway) and can get a nice handle and a nice hot->pc, then be done with it.

Thank you for the information, I'm glad you found that. :-)
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