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Old Jan 3, 2010, 7:14 PM   #1
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Default F70EXR Impressions

As many of you know, my main kit is a Canon 50D kit. I have shot a Panasonic LX1 as my compact camera companion for many years now. Recently it has been "commissioned indefinitely" from my girlfriend. So I have been without a compact camera. Which has cost me a few missed opportunities.

So I have been looking at compact cameras for a while. My needs list was this:
1) Pocketable - no need for a bridge or superzoom, i might as well bring my 50d.
2) Wide angle - at least 28mm
3) Decent zoom range - as it will be my only compact i want it to be versatile.
4) Price - Under 250$, i am looking to get a new normal zoom for my 50D in the spring and don't want this purchase cutting into that.

With these criterion in mind I narrowed it down to the Panasonic ZS3 and ZR1, the Canon SD940IS, and the Fuji F70EXR.

I eliminated the ZS3 in favor of the ZR1 because; 8x zoom would be plenty, ZS3 did not handle the red channels well making them purple, ZR is lighter and thinner.

I then eliminated the 940IS because of the limited zoom and relatively high price point compared to the other 2.

Now it came down to the ZR1 and the F70EXR.

The ZR1 offered a resolution advantage, as well as a better IS system, HD video, and better picture quality at lower ISO's. I still say this is the safest bet for 90% of people deciding between these 2 cameras, and will produce the best images with the least input. And it is well built, looks good, handles well. I still kind of want one of these as well.

I ultimately chose the F70EXR because I like to play with my cameras. If you understand the EXR and how to set it up properly, it will give you more dynamic range and much better low light shooting performance than the ZR1. However, if you don't use it properly, the results will be poor. The disadvantage to the EXR technology is in essence i purchased a 5mp camera in 2010. I am aware of this limitation and it really doesn't bother me, as I still have my 50D when I need something gallery quality. My compact shots will be mostly presented on the web or in 8x10 or smaller prints. 5mp is more than adequate. I was also happy with the autofocus performance, it was noticeably faster than the Canon and Panasonic when I tested them instore.

If you are interested in the EXR technology, its setup, and how it impacts photos. I can give you more details later.

Anyways, thats my introduction and my decision-making process. Well the brief version anyways, if you have any other questions, feel free to ask.

The next spots will be saved for photo examples, as I get them.
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Old Jan 3, 2010, 7:15 PM   #2
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Ok, here are literally 2 of my first 4 shots I have taken with the camera. I did not have time for any more today. I will be sure to add more from different settings, and different ISO's as I have time.
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ISO 100, Program Mode, M(5mp resolution), DR400%, Film Standard (Provia)

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100% crop middle


100% crop lower left


resized with a touch of contrast n sharpening

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ISO 400, Program Mode, M(5mp resolution), DR400%, Film Standard (Provia)
(it's a little underexposed, so i think 400 can look even better)

resized


100% center


minor edit


i really need to reshoot the ISO 400 shot, its too underexposed, but at least you can get some rough idea til i can redo it.
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That is all I had time for today. I want to get out and do some more thorough testing at all ISO's and with different dynamic range's. as well as get some examples of the pro lowlight (combines 4 images).

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Still haven't had a chance to shoot much, but i grabbed a few over lunch, and one on the way home.

first up is our test at full wide-angle (5mm) P mode ISO 100 f6.4

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first thing we can see is that the photographer, sigh, shot slightly down, sorry for that, i was in a hurry and had not tripod or level. but nevertheless, we can see there is barrel distortion and some vignetting. pretty typical for a 10x zoom. not great, not bad imo.

100%crop from center

good detail

100% crop from top right

noticeably softer and some vignette, but not bad for 100% crop from a 10x zoom.


now 17mm, which is kind of a random inbetween point. P mode, ISO 100, f5.3

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looks pretty good, no real issues here

center 100%

no surprises here. looks good.

top right corner 100%

some corner softness again, but not bad

now full zoom (50mm) P mode iso100 f5.6

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looks good, not much pincushion.

center 100%

looks good

top right corner 100%

again, some corner softness, but not bad for 100%.

Overall, nothing really surprised me here. good center sharpness, and I expected some corner sharpness and vignetting on a 10x superzoom. I also expected some barrel distortion at the widest angle, and there was some, but not bad at all really, seen worse from much more expensive cameras. the pincushion at tele was well controlled.

1 extra picture taken as I walked home using DR Mode 800% Iso 200 14mm f5.2

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center crop


thanks for looking. and keep in mind these are still first impressions and ARE NOT WELL CONTROLLED TESTS..... yet

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Congrats on the new camera and it looks like it is a capable beast in the right hands. I look forward to seeing how things progress as you play more.
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Nicely done, Hards-

The Fuji F-70EXR is an impressive camera considering it price and features.

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thanks to you both.

(edited to add some brief tests today)
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had to run over to the main campus today to pick up a letter. so took the opportunity to grab a few snapshots while I was there.

EXR DR Mode 800%







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Gorgeous photos!
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Thanks, Hards-

...for some really excellent photos. The B&W shots seem to fit the subjects perfectly.

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Thank you Mary and Thank you Sarah.

I am really enjoying this little camera as a day-to-day carry. I would not have had these images had I not had such a pocketable camera I could throw in my coat.

And it worked well in these harsh lighting conditions.
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