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Old Apr 24, 2010, 12:53 AM   #1
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Default HS10 Photo tests..have you seen this?

I found this review yesterday..interesting photo test, especially using the tripod.
http://www.pbase.com/middlehill/fuji...ix_hs10_review
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Here's a site with ISO tests between HS10 and F70EXR..
http://kimletkeman.blogspot.com/2010...so-ladder.html
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If you search around Kim Letkeman's website there is an excellent comparison of the HS-10 to DSLR cameras that is detailed and very telling.

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Old Apr 25, 2010, 6:23 AM   #4
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If you search around Kim Letkeman's website there is an excellent comparison of the HS-10 to DSLR cameras that is detailed and very telling.

You will find it at:http://kimletkeman.blogspot.com/2010...how-close.html

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Old Apr 26, 2010, 1:43 AM   #5
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Thanks...very telling indeed.
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If you search around Kim Letkeman's website there is an excellent comparison of the HS-10 to DSLR cameras that is detailed and very telling.

You will find it at:http://kimletkeman.blogspot.com/2010...how-close.html

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No offense. But, that's probably one of the worst comparisons I've ever seen where someone is trying to demonstrate how one camera may be better than another.

I see that the writer decided to use other photographers' photos, apparently without any permission. I also see where he's claiming fair use with this statement now (but, I didn't even see that when I looked at it last):

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So I thought I’d show some full-sized samples from around the net, processed with suitable copyright acknowledgement of course … and I claim fair use for educational purposes if someone finds this objectionable.
"around the Net", "fair use", "educational purposes"...?

You've got to be kidding, and yes, I find it objectionable.

In my opinion, you should not use other photographers' photos without permission. It's a matter of courtesy, not to mention that you open yourself up to lawsuits (meaning that if it's not judged to be "fair use, you open yourself up to potential punitive damages of up to $10,000 per copyright infringement in the U.S.), without even considering the potentially defamatory interpretation some users may have (opening up the potential for even more serious action).

If you publish images without permission in order to put someone's photos (note to mention a camera model in this case) in a derogatory light in a way that's misleading, that's a different matter entirely (personally, I would not consider that kind of use to be "fair use" for "educational purposes", since I don't see any educational value in those comparisons).

I'm not the photographer, but if I were, I just might be inclined to consult an attorney and explore legal options, especially in the case of the ones being used despite copyright notices via watermarks (and all photos are copyrighted the moment they're created anyway, even without any watermark or notice).

You can't fairly compare images in the way he's demonstrating with his (or should I say other photographers') samples, unless they were taken in the same conditions with similar camera settings (exact vantage point, focal length, lighting/time of day, etc.).

Lighting is very important. Run your mouse cursor over the photos in this article for an example of how much difference lighting can make:

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/es...0seconds.shtml

Yet, this guy is using photos that were obviously taken in very different lighting conditions, and are not even of the same subject... apparently to show differences "for educational purposes"

Yea, right, like I'm going to believe that one.

Now, that's not to say that the D300 can't take better photos. But (in my personal opinion), that's an extremely biased and flawed comparison and there is nothing educational about it, not to mention the use of other photographers' photos.
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Excellent points Jim. Having used the HS10, I found his arguments not to hold much water.
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