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Old Oct 15, 2005, 10:42 AM   #531
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as promised, a series of photo's to show the zoom of the S9500 up to the combination with 2.2x converter and 2x digital zoom. all iso80

28mm wide angle


300mm zoom


660mm (300mm with 2.2x converter)


1320mm (300mm, 2.2x converter and 2x digital zoom)



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Old Oct 15, 2005, 11:34 AM   #532
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Autumn in Holland, picture only resized.
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Old Oct 15, 2005, 11:55 AM   #533
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And another one (Proton how do you put more pictures in one post ?????)
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Old Oct 15, 2005, 12:45 PM   #534
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if you upload the photo's to a different website, than you can add the photo's here in 1 message by clicking on the icon that looks like a page with 3 balls in it above your message window and by typing a link each time.
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Old Oct 15, 2005, 1:17 PM   #535
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Thanks Proton,

I will give it a try next time :?
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Old Oct 15, 2005, 4:55 PM   #536
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take a look at this picture please.

The weather today was bright, too bright often to make a good photo. Overexposure of the sky happened almost every time. So I underexposed the pix. The S9500 gives quick access to that function through buttons on top, much better than my old digital compact where it was hidden in a menu! Saturation was high, hence the nice deep blue sky :-) It looks like you're watching the photo through sunglasses.
Now I wonder why people say that you need to overexpose on a bright day:?
while it's obvious that you need to do the opposite?!`

For people outside the Netherlands: this is not a church, it's a gate into the medieval part of town. Dutch cities had a citywall to protect themselves in the middle ages. Gates were ofcourse made in that wall. Most of the wall is gone, but this gate survived :-)




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Old Oct 15, 2005, 7:14 PM   #537
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try shooting a white page with default settings, P mode
in fully automatic settings the result would not be that white
it would me more gray
try overexposure +2 stops and the result would be white as it should be

your photo has dark parts and bright parts so the photometer would have no problem give correct settings

the problem is when the subject you are shooting has only bright or only dark parts
like a white page for example snow or a black page (night shot)

anyway modern photometers and the fact that you see right away the result makes things veeeeeeery easy
you have 3 photometers: spot, centerweighted and multi zone
try shooting with each one and see the difference on the same subject

by the way by checking the histogram of your last photo you can see that your photo is a very underexposured one. the detail in the shadows is lost, you just see black where there should be detail
you should better leave the photometer alone and correct it only when it is wrong and at the lost photo you were wrong not the photometer
an attempt to recover some of the details which were lost due to the underexposure

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Old Oct 16, 2005, 7:29 PM   #538
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can someone upload somewhere a photo of 800 and 1600 iso in jpeg mode
and the same photo in raw (raf) ?
you know something interesting with detail
something which could loose detail due to the noise reduction

use M mode
use specific white balance
use a tripod
same aperture change the shutter (when you change the iso)
if you do a test do it correct

would like to see what could be done in raw and neat image

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Old Oct 17, 2005, 6:45 AM   #539
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the new review at http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/came...60/page_1.html

says that for iso800 and is1600 better results are achieved when shooting in raw.


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Old Oct 17, 2005, 6:06 PM   #540
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the problem with jpeg is that you cannot change the noise reduction
the camera decides which is noise and which is not
by shooting raw and then use a sophisticated noise reduction program such as neat image or noise ninja you get the best possible noise reduction so as to keep the most detail

so the main problem is not the medium or high quality of the jpeg files but the noise reduction it is applied to them

thats why i ask for a raw image and a jpeg of the same subject to see what can be done. how much better noise reduction can neat image do from the standard of the camera

by the way if you want you can check some of my photographs on my site:
http://neosmyrniwths.blogspot.com/
hope you like them
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