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Old Aug 25, 2006, 1:29 AM   #11
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Fuji should send to s9000 and s9500 user a firmware upgrade soon, for better

processing; at least for poor light situations to get better pictures with less noise

using lower ISO.

Oly had send us for C8080 such a firmware upgrade.


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Old Aug 25, 2006, 5:27 AM   #12
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The S9600/S9100 has new imagine processor RPP II. I think you can't achieve similar result with firmware upgrade only.

Btw
RAW size is the same.

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Old Aug 25, 2006, 6:52 AM   #13
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No, I think it's a typo because on the 16 MB xD you can only fit 3 pics in fine ... not 56 as written.

I guess they'll include a 256 MB xD card with the new 9100/9600 because memory is getting cheaper and as a promotional item.

And no, no new processor or sensor both cams have 5th generation processor.

But, they added a new LCD 2"

And ... they probably redesigned the mode dial wheel shaft.

Cut from the 9000/9500 manual in PDF:

DPC-256 (256 MB)
56 Fine
113 Medium
113 3/2
204 5M
325 3M
409 2M
1997 0.3M
13 RAW
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Old Aug 25, 2006, 8:31 AM   #14
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" And no, no new processor or sensor both cams have 5th generation processor."

I've checked again and found this information (regarding Real Photo Engine) on Fuji Japan web page:
"On-board type: FinePix F11/F10/Z2/Z1/V10/S9100/S9000/S5200"

So Dpreview (and Fuji UK!!!) is wrong - writing "Real Photo Processor II" ?

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Old Aug 25, 2006, 9:51 AM   #15
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I can't see the 2.0inch LCD having 235,000 pixels either, I'd bet that's an error.




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Old Aug 25, 2006, 10:13 AM   #16
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The Fuji S9600/S9100 has indeed 2", 235,000 pixels LCD.
You can check yourself (japanese manual):
http://www.fujifilm.co.jp/download/pdf/fxs9100jhp.pdf

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Old Aug 26, 2006, 4:50 AM   #17
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Back in 2002 when Minolta introduced the Dimage 7i they immediately issued a firmware update for existing Dimage 7 owners to give them some of the features of the new camera. Not only that, but they also recalled a large number of 7i's which had faulty power switches that had a tendency to snap off ( a bit like the S9000/9500 command dials).

Unfortunately KM are no more and Fuji simply don't do things like KM did, so don't hold your breath for any firmware updates or product recalls. You just have to make the best of the camera you've got and if you want anything better you just have to buy a new camera. In the meantime just hope that if the command dial fails it does so while the camera is still under warranty.
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Curious to see that the S3 also has a 2 inch, 235,000 pixel LCD. Likely that this is the very same LCD. In other words, they already have the parts, lets use it in the new 9100/9600. At least the s6000fd has the 2.5 inch LCD. In fact, I'm tempted to get the S6000fd, as it has the newest 6th gen. chip, and has 3200 ISO. probably a nice camera.

Fuji didnt use the larger LCD for some really strange reason on the new 9100. but, at 235k pixels at 2.0 inches the quality of the images should be quite good at that. compare that to the last LCD used on the 9000/9500 at 118k pixels and 1.8". There should be quite a boost in image quality on the slightly larger screen.
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Old Aug 30, 2006, 1:21 AM   #19
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S9000/S9500: Shutterlag - 0.5-0.9 seconds
Startup - 1.6 seconds



S9100/s9600: Shutterlag-0.01 seconds
Startup- 0.8 seconds

These look like some pretty useful improvements.

The shutterlag numbers are not minor improvements - thats pretty significant. Startup is sped up by 1/2. not bad!

Just the same - hang on guys, they may very well offer a firmware upgrade if its possible.
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Old Aug 30, 2006, 7:12 AM   #20
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If you bought a new car 6 months ago and the manufacturer now is bringing out a new model with a more powerful engine would you expect the manufacturer to replace your old engine free of charge as an upgrade, of course not, so why would you expect a camera manufacturer to upgrade every old model when they bring out a new model?

I own an S9500 but I don't expect a free upgrade just because a new model is coming out.

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