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Correct, there are plenty of digicams that offer ISO 1600 or 3200.
What I would caution you about is to seek out real life photos of similar nature (not test shots of labels or close ups of a face but shots from a distance of moving subjects like you'll be shooting) to determine if the noise levels in a given camera are acceptable to you. I've shot thousands of low light action shots and I can promise you the noise signature of a camera in those conditions is different than the label test shots you see in reviews. And completely different than a portrait close-up. So, be cautious here - judging useful noise levels based on those test shots is potentially a dangerous thing to do. You'll also want to invest in noise reduction software with whatever you choose: Noiseware, Neat Image and Noise Ninja are all well liked. Goo luck. |
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John, thanks for your advice; I hope you can bear with me for a while. I just study and read the reviews for the sake of getting an idea how good or bad a digital camera is; at high ISO. So lets say the Fujifilm Finepix F30 produces clean and detailed images at ISO 400 - ISO 800, I get the idea that it is good at high ISO performance. (I will also observe the re-viewer's opinion) (Currently, the reviewsseem to be the best way for me to know the cameras.) I don't think peoplewill like me to fill forums up with "How is your experience with camera A - Z; how is this, how is that etc...?" or"How is the ISO performance of camera A, and how it compares to cameraZ etc...?" I think I might getbanned!:lol: I agree with you that the reviews are not everything, however, I do think that they are informative. :-) BTW, now I will only try to inform people about thetechnical part, and let people like you inform on the experience part. ![]() Regards. |
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The biggest problem with reviews is that they fail to give you any context. They'll say, This wondercamera2000 has the best noise performance!. They omit (in its class), therefore making thier statement all but useless.
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Usually review sitessuch asdpreview (& more professional sites) will state the words "In it's class". For example, the Fujifilm Finepix F30 Zoom was stated to have the best high ISO performance in it's class. (Of ultra-compact pocket-able cameras) |
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I stand by my statement. DO NOT JUDGE HOW WELL A CAMERA WILL PERFORM IN LOW LIGHT ACTION BASED UPON TEST SHOTS OF A LABEL OR CLOSE UPS OF A PERSON's FACE. That is a completely different scenario than what you will be shooting in. Noise characteristics will be different with the theater shots. Noise will be much worse for any camera in that instance.
So, we're not talking speculation or theory here. We're talking about "I need a camera that produces good shots in a theater". I am trying to state as clear as I can that you need to see shots from that camera in that type of setting to judge whether it will produce acceptable quality shots. PERIOD. Reviews do not test cameras under these condittions. You want to find examples from people that have actually used the camera. I'm not saying Benjamin should not voice an opinion. I'm just saying the REVIEWS that opinion is based upon are not necessarily valid in this context - they do their tests in a much simpler environment. Again, to the OP I am just suggesting you ask people for actual photographic examples before you make a choice. That's all. Just like if you were buying a camera for landscape purposes - you want to see landscape photos taken with the camera. Want a camera for portrait shots - it helps to see portrait shots people have taken with the camera. Same thing here - at the end of the day, what's important is how the camera behaves in the real world. If people are able to get acceptable shots with a camera in the same situation you're in and you can see their photos and like the quality that's all that matters. It doesn't matter what some reviewer said good or bad. |
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I wonder which camera belowwill be the better one for indoor social shots without flash; under dim lightings;
Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX1: Quote:
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http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/fujifilmf30/page16.asp Reply to John: Isn't it true that a camerawith better high ISO performance would be the better one for indoor shots, theater shots, and (or) action shots? Would you crank up your ISOlevel if your camerais not going toproduce quality results? |
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Ummm, just a question - what does indoor social shots have to do with theater action? Two completely different situations. |
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Reply to John:
Isn't it true that a camerawith better high ISO performance; would be the better one for indoor shots, theater shots, and (or) action shots? Would you crank up your ISOlevel if your camerais not going toproduce quality results? |
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a grainy/noisy shot is better than no shot at all!!
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So? When the review states that the F30 have a very good high ISO performance. (Which would be ideal for my indoor social shots), I shouldn't take any heed? One the other hand, if the review states that the LX1 have a poor highISO performance (Which could be detrimentalfor my indoor social shots), I should not take heed? http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/fuji...zoom/page7.asp Would I choose the camera on theright if high ISO performance was my priority? |
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