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BillDrew Apr 25, 2006 6:06 AM

I am curious about the most common failure of digicams. I suspect obsolence and/or "better toy" lust is the main reason for getting a new digicam.

In my case, the first digicam is still working (at 480x640 - 0.3Mp) and so is my second (Casio 3000), but I did recentlybuy the KM 5d in a fit of new toy lust. The Casio's on/off switch is a bit sticky so I think that is the most likely thing that will bring it tothe end.

kenmck15 Apr 25, 2006 6:19 AM

i started with a Dicksmiths 1.3mp. Cost $140NZD at the time. I thought it was a good price. Pic quality was terrible and was only good for posting things on onlline trading websites.

Upgraded to better the quality

Then moved up to a SONY DSCW5. Bought this for around $750NZD with512memstickbag, travel recharger and extra batts. This was a great camera., i loved it. When i was considering buying this cam i joined this forum i think and tht how it all started.

I then felt i wanted a more versatile cam and big zoom. So i upgraded again. I sold te sony and bought a PANASONIC FZ30

This is my current cam and i love it. Great all rounder and getting some great shots and im learning so much using it.

On the horizon i am seeing a DSLR maybe sometime next year. I wil see. BUt i love wat i have seen from the 30d canon

ken

tmoreau Apr 25, 2006 7:45 AM

Bought a Casio QV-11 in 1997 or so, 320x240 toy that netted me what would have been a few excellent pictures but I couldnt even print decent wallet size prints.

In around 2002 I bought a used Olympus D550z 3mp camera and began enjoying photography. Made some excellent 8x10's, and was then totally sold on digital. Camera was big, slow, fully automatic, had a silly motorized zoom and poor wide angle, and I wanted to take more controll of my pictues.

I upgraded to a Minolta A1. Fantastic camera, let me forget about it and go auto, or grab as much controll as I thought I could handle. Image quality started to get disapointing, especially since I often found the need to use iso400 or 800 to get some of my snapshots. The camera was also a little slow at times (as is any non-slr).

Enter the Minolta 5D. Now, and only now, *I* am running the show! I have no more excuses, the bad pictures are all my doing. The camera reacts as fast as I can or faster. Any FOV I can dream I can buy a lens for. Iso1600 can give superb results.

SO, the first camera was replaced since it was useless as a photography tool. The second because there was better out there, and I was becoming a bit more advanced as a photographer. The A1 was replaced mostly because bigger better faster was availible, and I felt a little restricted by it.

Norm in Fujino Apr 25, 2006 7:58 AM

BillDrew wrote:
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I am curious about the most common failure of digicams. I suspect obsolence and/or "better toy" lust is the main reason for getting a new digicam.
Yup, the steady march of time. I wanted manual functions and more MP (my first one was an Olympus D-620 with only 1.4MP and was totally automatic). I gave it away to an artist in town and he's still using it.

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/D620/62J0A.JPG


LadyhawkVA Apr 25, 2006 8:30 AM

My first digicam, a Pentax Optio 33L, is still working fine. I keep it in my purse or briefcase in case I see a shot I've got to grab. I upgraded to a Panasonic FZ20 because I wanted to get away from fully automatic settings, learn how to use manual controls and do some creative things that just are not possible with a totally automatic P&S.

I'm not knocking P&S cameras at all. Mine introduced me to the joy of photography and inspired me to dig deeper and learn more. The ability (with a P&S) to shoot a higher ratio of keepers - or at least shots that can be redeemed with some cropping and other PP work - until one gains confidence is a big plus.

E.T Apr 25, 2006 1:30 PM

My first (ever) camera was Minolta Dimage 7i which I bought in February 2003. Originally I was looking Canon Powershot G3 but in the end I chose Minolta because of its manual/mechanical zoom and wider zoom range. I guess taking 4500 shots in two years tells how I liked it despite of it being very power hungry camera and real AA NiMH "tester". Camera's optics is still in front line of fixed lens digicams and controls are completely equal (in fact much less menu based) to couple current digicams which could be called as somewhat good manual control cameras.


I skipped two next updates/newer cameras and was going to continue despite newer cameras having Anti-Shake and RAW buffering but after merging of Konica and Minolta and announce of dumbed down A200 in Fall 04 I started following digicams more closely. Because of lack of any news for real successor of Minolta's prosumer line I started checking availability and prices of KonicaMinolta A2 which had superior controls and features compared to any other camera and in winter I was considering buying it very seriously but I decided to wait for PMA05 if there would be announce of real successor. After ending of PMA I started searching shops which had A2 in stock and noticed almsot everyone who had it in product list stated bad availability/not in stock and in the end I had to go through half dozen big central German shops untill I managed to find one Swedish shops which had it in stock. It looked much like that shop was about only shop in this area of Europe having so it should be needless to say I ordered one immediately.

I could have continued with "old" camera but I really didn't like trend towards me-too dozenware Point&Prays with menu surfing crappy controls and A2 had some major upgrades, Anti-Shake, two control dials meaning way more efficient controls, big capacity Li-Ion battery, much longer 544x408 videos, real "super fine" EVF with 922 000 pixels so I think that could be kept as rational update.

In fact that camera is still ultimate prosumer in many aspects, control layout beats even low end DLSLRs... current two years newer cameras are still trying to "claim throne" with crappy low resolution max. ~230 000 pixel EVFs/LCDs, also well working auto EVF/LCD sensors apparently haven't been seen since then basing to reviews.
Also video capability came really into need in last June's 14th day when nice thunderstorm rolled over place with nice downpour and strong downburst which would have been impossible to capture with still camera so I'm definitely going to stay away from "D"SLRs until they have dropped ballast of 70+ something old structure designed for entirely other sensor format.

Tom LaPrise Apr 26, 2006 7:20 AM

My first digital was a SiPix StyleCam Blink, then I got a Kodak DC3200 (1 megapixel). Bought a Concord Eye-Q Go LCD (1.5-mp?) after a while, and sold the DC3200 to my younger brother. The Concord went bad after a couple of months, so I returned it and got a Kodak CX4200 (2mp). Not too long after that, my Canon AE-1 developed the dreaded mirror-box squeak, so I bought a Minolta DiMage Z1 to replace it. The Z1 is my "main camera" now. (With the ZCA-100 filter adapter, it's kind of big for a belt case, so I got a Canon A410 to carry on my bike rides.)

Yno Apr 26, 2006 9:17 AM

I started with a Logicam Pocket digital, as I wanted something small I could carry with me on my road bike. I was never impressed with the quality, and bought a Sony Stylus. It worked well until I dropped it and the clam-shell cover came off. It would have cost more to fix than to replace, so I bought an Olympus. That gave me more control, but I never liked the ergonomics. I sold that and bought a newer Stylus. But when the Sony T1 came out, I fell in love. I gave the Stylus to my girlfriend, and I still have the T1. It is great to be able to carry a decent quality camera in your shirt pocket. However, it has its shortcomings. Since I had a number of Minolta lenses from my film SLR days, I bought a 5D, and I am in love again!

MrPogo Apr 26, 2006 5:54 PM

I'm on my 4th. The only one I've had break was a Sony, which happened within two days of buying it and thus was replaced under warranty. All upgrades have always been simply because I wanted more features, better pictures etc.

sw2cam Apr 26, 2006 6:54 PM

My first digicam is still working like a champ. I used it for a few years then my Son took it to IRAQ for 13 months. All was well when he packed his seabag for his return home. Upon his return the cam was no longer firing up the LCD. I was going to send it in. Then I was going to trade it in. Then I took it apart and cleaned a years worth of sand and grit, cleaned the contacts. Put the fool thing back together. To my surprise it worked when I got done. It's working fine. Bought in august of 2001 the little KODAK 1.3 mp DX3215 is now in the hands of my 4 year old Grandson. Mind you now, his dad helps.

ELDDJOC Apr 27, 2006 6:51 AM

My first digital camera was the excellent but clunky Fuji FinePix A210, which was great, but eventually its small 1.5 Inch LCD screen and xD format got to me. Although it is still with me, I don't really use it at all.



mtngal Apr 27, 2006 11:19 PM

My first digicam was a Sony F717 and I still have it - wouldn't have replaced it if it hadn't developed problems. While the pictures are fine, the EVF/LCD are very yellowedand only useful for framing. The card reader no longer reliably reads a card (didn't matter which one). So I replaced it with an FZ30 which I sold a month later - the quality of the photos (detail captured) wasn't as good as the Sony, and the IS didn't seem to help me enough to get clear, sharp pictures reliably. I'm hoping that my current Pentax *ist will give me as much fun and pleasure as the Sony did.

KCan Apr 28, 2006 7:34 AM

BillDrew wrote:
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I suspect obsolence and/or "better toy" lust is the main reason for getting a new digicam.
Hi Bill, in my case, "Better toy lust" is the reason.

My firstwas a Coolpix 950, still working. Got the zoom system "out of track" 2 times, but I repaired it my self. Still use it and love this 2 Mpix camera. A big plus is it's compatible with all my film Nikon flashes (classic Nikon TTL compatible)
The second was a Minolta D7, major reason: 28-200 zoom, manual setting and focus.
My actual is a D7i, will keep it a while , I have other priority for now :?

VTphotog Apr 28, 2006 8:56 PM

Only one digital for me- Minolta D7hi. Manual zoom/focus. PC sync takes up to +-400v. EVF eye sensor. RAW. AA battery gives me the ability to get batteries anywhere if the rechargeables go. Nice lens. No dust problems. Live histogram.

Basically, the camera doesn't intrude itself into my shooting. What I get for results reflect only on me, not the camera. Exactly what I wanted. If this one breaks, I will either repair it or replace it with another. Unless, of course something REALLY better comes along.

brian

PeterP Apr 28, 2006 9:50 PM

You can only pick one :) Each time it was mostly new toy lust.
Only one has failed so far and it was my fault, they don't work well with water inside.


amazingthailand Apr 29, 2006 5:39 AM

My first digicam was a Casio QV3000, I think, 3MP. It is still going strong. After that I bought a Minolta D7. It broke after a few years of use - the mechanical zoom broke. I sent it in for repair, and Minolta replaced it with a new D7i, which I still have. Then I bought a Fuji S2, my first dSLR. Really bad camera. Fuji really messed up the AF on that camera. So I dumped it for a Kodak SLR/n - a fabulous camera and still my number one. I recently bought the Sony R1 to replace the D7i. With the exception of the Fuji S2, I have been happy with all my cameras and all are still functional. Although, I need to look for a new home for the D7i.

reader Apr 29, 2006 3:10 PM

Bill,

First Digital Camera was the Sony D770...a whopping 1.5 Megapixels in a DSLR with the fixed 5x Sony lens.

It's still working. Never a problem.

When the Nikon D200 arrived, I bought a pair of Lexar 2GB 133x CF cards. Inserted one in the the D770 and it breathed new life into the old D770.

It was about "camera lust" but it was also about time to upgrade!

JimC Apr 29, 2006 4:18 PM

Nothing went wrong with my first Digicam. Ditto for the second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh...

I will admit that I'm extremely careful with anything that appears to be "fragile" on a camera (battery compartment doors, CF compartment doors, etc.), since I have seen my share of failures reported.

It's a constant search for perfection. There can be some differences between cameras that can make one better than another, depending on what you're shooting.

However, the photographer's skill is more important than the differences in cameras in most conditions, even compared to an older camera model.

Any of them require some getting used to (metering behavior, AF limitations, speed of operation, control layout, etc.), and most are capable of taking great photos in the right hands. Ditto for bad photos (sorry, but no perfect cameras yet).

I've still got a Coolpix 950 that I use from time to time (I like the swivel body and I like the macro ability). It's terribly slow by today's standards. But, it is very capable of taking some nice photos. I've got 8x10" prints from this camera hanging next to prints from 35mm film that look just as nice (if not better) from typical viewing distances, even though it's only 2 Megapixels.




photoshane Apr 30, 2006 7:30 PM

My first camera was a hp photosmart R707.The screen would always diplay a nice image, but after I took the photo it would come out with a different white balance, and would always be too dark. It also took forever to focus andyou would hear the lense grinding. Eventually I became in need of a a better camera with more features and better zoom. The amount ofnoise in the dark areas of the pictures drove me crazy too.

Vandurin Apr 30, 2006 8:34 PM

What went wrong with my first digicam...this is a story I like to tell actually...too bad my wife won't know about it this time.

My first digicam was a Minolta Dimage X, great camera..I loved it. Small, thin, could take it anywhere.

She took our oldest son, 5 at the time to SeaWord while I was at work. When they got there, she pocketed the tickets and threw everything else she would need into her purse, wallet, camera and a bottle of water.

After walking around a bit, her back feels a little damp. Turns out the cap to her water wasn't completely on. It may have been salvaged had she left it alone and maybe let it dry out, but she turned it on and off a couple times to see if it still worked.

I was very upset that day..but it prompted by second digicam purchase, a Canon Powershot S50, which isn't allowed anywhere near her purse and those bottles of water she keeps in it.

scoundrel1728 May 9, 2006 12:01 AM

My first digital was a Nikon Coolpix 950 that required warranty service because of a broken latch on the battery door and a balky mode/power switch. I still have that camera but, despite taking care with the battery door, it is broken again and requires adhesive tape to keep the batteries in place and in contact. The switch is balky again too. Then again, it has something like 20,000 shots on it.

I managed to upgrade because my wife needed a camera for a trip she was taking to New Hampshire. She had thought I was nuts to buy the first one but the idea of not having to pay for film and processing appealed to her. I let her have my 950 on the condition that I could get something to replace it. I am still using the Nikon E995 that replaced the 950. After about 25,000 shots on that one, its levers and switches are getting a bit stuttery. It also has a prominent hot pixel right in the middle of the image frame. I also managed to put a burn on the CCD last October while leaving it on the tripod too long pointed at the sun. :(

I just bought a used Konica-Minolta 5D but expect to continue to use the E995 as a street/portable camera.



misbehave May 10, 2006 3:16 AM

My first real digicam (not counting those lame web cam/digi cam hybrid you get as gift from credit card company) was a Nikon Coolpix 995.
I know nothing about digicam at the time I bought it. It was recommended to me by a friend who works in a construction company and have been using the same model.
I would consider myself lucky cause although I don't really like the Coolpix 995 now, nevertheless it is a great camera for newbie.
After using it for a few years and learnt a bit more about digital photography, I realise I need more than the Coolpix 995 can offer.
I need better zoom range, better control of the zoom function, better speed etc etc.
And now I 've got my FZ-30.


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