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David French wrote:
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Tis worth doing those kind of calculations, and putting them out where they can be shown to be wrong if they are. |
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The maneuver is called a "vertical reverse". It can be performed by the F-16 and the newer American F-22 as well. It is really more a demonstration of how well the engines can work when they have the airflow through them disrupted. Juggernaut |
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Hello, I have seen video of the F-16 doing the vertical reverse and within the last 1 month I have seen video of the F-22 doing it. Really no practical value either except in a guns fight with a poorly trained attacker. I did not realize there would be so much aviation interest here. For those who are interested, this debate first started over on a military flight sim web page: www.fighterops.com There are actually a number of real pilots who make postings on that web page: The direct link to the discussion that let me to post here is this one: http://www.fighterops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4716 Thanks for all of the feedback! Juggernaut |
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(170 mi / 1 hr)* (1 hr / 3,600 s) = (170 mi / 3600 s)
(170 mi / 3600 s) * (1,609 m / 1 mi) = (76 m / 1 s) BTW, this method of unit conversion via cancelling units is called Stoichiometry. You can't go wrong when you use it. BillDrew wrote: Quote:
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I get sick at Alton Towers, so I don't think I'll be trying these anytime soon. :lol:
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First "Cobra"-- Viktor Pugachev, if memory serves me...
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Yeah, F-16 "aerodynamics" is apparently quite heavily caused by what FBW allows, high alfa maneuvers always cause challenge for engines and last thing needed in one engine plane would be compressor stall... which was actually considerable problem with engines of early F-14 models. For how serious engine failure can be check airshow crash in Ukraine. http://www.spacedaily.com/news/plane-crash-02a.html http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/...497446606.html squirl033 wrote: Quote:
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BTW, would have been really intersting to see what capabilities of YF-23 really were, while lack of (complex and heavy weight mechanical) thrust vectoring surely limits lowest speed maneuverability its design gives very low drag and is otherwise highly unstable with large aerodynamic control surfaces. Well... maybe that airfoil design could work as starting point when fluidic thrust vectoring becomes available. |
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Hi, I believe I saw it in some promotional video from the USAF itself. Juggernaut |
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[quote] style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff"Sorry - bad formatting
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I also had a flight engineer who had retired from the Air Force and his last assignment had been as the commander of the F-15 squadron at the Fighter Weapons School at Nellis. He surprised me by saying probably the most dangerous fighter in the world in a real fight is the F-14 because of the Phoenix missile. I had thought it wasn't maneuverable enough to be effective against another fighter and was just for bombers. He said you could always outmaneuver it but you couldn't ignore one. They come in from above unpowered and you can't see them, so you have to start pulling Gs when you anticipate it arriving based on the launch warning. The F-14 crews are competent at seeing that the Phoenix arrives just before the planes come into AMRAAM and Sparrow range. So while the enemy is avoiding the Phoenix the F-14 executes a medium range missile attack – one that can't be outmaneuvered. The Top Gun aggressor pilot confirmed that. The early F-14s had engine problems because the engine they had designed it for wasn't available. I thought the most dramatic engine failure ever was the Mig-29 at the Paris airshow when one flamed out when the pilot was holding it vertical with power. I'm amazed at how good Russian ejection seats are. They evidently sold a lot of ejection seats after that mishap. I wish I had been there to see that since nobody was killed. Quote:
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