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There is a lot to be said for keeping your fingers on the zoom ring and quickly zooming and having the changes relayed to the viewfinder at the speed of light. For action, I won't use anything but the DSLR, even though I also own a pro-sumer point and shoot. Having tried the point and shoot for action, I could hardly believe how easy the results are with the DSLR by comparison. If action is your thing, there is no substitute. The last images of the birds were nice. The primary reason is the secret to great wildlife pics. GET CLOSE! Nothing else, including camera choice,is as important. ![]() ![]() DSLRs are not for everyone. The choice is a personal choice based on cost, ease of use, shooting style, and convienence. DSLRs are not old history, but they are not the all to end all either. They have an advantage in some areas, and action is one of those areas. |
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You mean the device that modifies the through the lens viewfinder? You have to excuse me, but I'm not up to speed with such devices. EVFs are not reliable for fast moving subjects, at least that's my experience. There is certainly a difference in a device to avoid the EVF vs one that enhances (and still uses) the optical viewfinder of the SLR. BTW, this is the first time I've been labeled as a troll. If you or anyone else wants to use P&S full time it makes me no difference. Have at it. Nothing the matter with that at all. I'm relating personal experience using both for action photography. I'm glad to be labeled as 100% wrong for understanding there is no perfect camera system. There are trade offs for each and every system you could possibly choose. Here's one that's stationary. ![]() |
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Look, if your p&s is as good as a DSLR, show us some decent photos taken in less than perfect light. People inside a bar, an indoor basketball game, your back yard under a full moon, etc... Here's a local cemetery around midnight, taken handheld without a flash: ![]() ![]() Here's a shot taken in a pitch black warehouse, camera in one hand and flashlight in the other: ![]() Despite being taken in the worst possible conditions, they are cleaner looking than your contest photo. |
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Really, macro to wide angle to extreme telephoto with one tidy, light, and inexpensive (in comparison to DSLR)package. I don't think the pack of DSLR trolls have really said anything bad about these wonderful cams. There are somethings they do better than others. For me, bugs are one thing (that they do well), action is another (this time not as well). |
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1. Bird in flight? Lower quality your response - choose an easier subject - stationary bird 2. Stationary bird? lower quality your response - choose an even easier subject - macro So, rather than trying to pick easier and easier shots till you find a subject so easy of course any camera can take the shot, let's get a little tricky and VERY specific. Try to stick to the exact theme please and not switch to something completely different and technically very easy. Photo 1 - let's see your ISO 1600 shot of a subject moving DIRECTLY TOWARD YOU from about 15 feet away (not from 100 feet but about 15): ![]() Photo 2: Let's see some of your ISO 3200 shots of a moving subject about 25 yards away: ![]() Photo 3 - let's see your ISO 1600 still shot from 40 feet away: ![]() Photo 4: Indoor shallow-dof portrait shot from 8 feet away (not 30 but8 )- sometimes you can't back up any further after all: ![]() Photo 5: Any f1.8 aperture shot of your choice: ![]() Photo 6 - Actually a series - any 7 shot action burst of your choice (action please) - preferably in under 2 seconds of elapsed time (please pardon the watermarks): ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() See if you can stay within the stated criteria for each shot. Feel free to let me know which specific shots your camera is physically unable to provide. |
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This thread is getting silly, my dad can beat up all of your dads.
The main reason I am looking at DSLR's is DOF control and the fact I have a bag full of Nikon glass sitting here. (Though it's all old manual focus) But if I go that route the fist accessory I will save for will be a zigview….I take that back… a super wide then a zigview. eric s I played with a D40 in the store the other day, moving from subject to subject I could definitely focus faster manually than the camera could. But then the D40 is bottom of the line. As for image quality I have been looking at a lot of pics in Steves reviews and elsewhere lately. I'm not seeing the big quality difference the DSLR crowd keeps talking about. But this depends a lot on the individual camera and the shooting circumstances.The majority of non-slr's are not aimed at serious users. JohnG I would like to know what shutter speed you used in pics 1 & 2 of your challenge. I'm not doubting you but it seems to the iso speed you gave are awfully high for an indoor basketball court and a lit football stadium. |
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The optics of a $4000 300mm prime lens is not going to be matched with a $400 digicam. That should be no surprise. Same thing at the other end of the spectrum. The $1000 wide angle DSLR lens will be corrected for distortion much better than the P&S. Does that mean that everyone should run out and buy the $5000 worth of lenses, as well as a $3000 full frame DSLR? Of course not. You can't even say that the $8000 would be a better camera than a P&S for everyone. No matter what, I don't think were going to convince that one person. I don't think its necessary. If he's happy, it should be enough. |
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