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Old Aug 24, 2004, 12:49 PM   #1
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They have an awsome price on the D70 kit with the 18-70mm Lens for $789, is this too good to be true? Has anyone had any experience with them
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Old Aug 24, 2004, 1:04 PM   #2
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You need to learn how to watch out for scam artists. If a price looks too good to be true, it probably is. Remember, it's very competitive now. So, if one store has a price that's lower than everyone else, watch out! You can see customer reviews of the vendor you are looking at here (scroll down to the bottom of the page to see them):


I would also recommend avoiding vendors with only a small number of customer reviews, because vendors have been known to "pad their own ratings", by posting "glowing reviews". A well established vendor will usuallyhave hundreds, if not thousands of good customer reviews.

The usual way the bad dealers work, is to advertise something at a lower price than everyone else. Then, they call you to "confirm" your order.

Then, the sales pitch begins (you'll need a better battery, larger memory card, lens accessories, extended warranty, etc.). Of course, many consumers fall for it, since they only check the price of the camera -- not the accessories.

These items are usually sold at outrageous prices, but appear to be heavily discounted (unrealistic prices are shown for the "list prices" of the accessories.).

Usually, this happens:

* They ship you a gray market camera (one not intended for sale in the U.S.). BTW, you won't get warranty service if it is gray market. Nikon USA will not service a camera that's not intended for sale in the U.S., even if you are willing to pay them to service it. And if you believe the warranties offered by dealers that sell gray market cameras are worth the paper they are written on, good for you (but don't cry when your camera suddenly gets lost when you try to get it serviced).


* They are not really going to sell you the camera at the advertised price, unless you agree to buy lots of overpriced extras (poor quality memory cards, case, poor quality lens accessories, generic batteries that they claim are better, extended warranty, etc.).

Of course, by the time you buy the overpriced, poor quality add-on's, you could have gotten a better deal somewhere else -- from a reputable dealer. Another trick these guys play, is to claim the price is for the camera only (again, forcing you to buy the items that are included with the camera anyway, at drastically inflated prices). Otherwise (if you tell them you don't want the add-ons), most of the "scam artists" will refuse to sell it to you for the quoted price.

Or, your camera will suddenly go to backorder status, or even more common, they simply never ship it to you -- leading you along when you try to find out order status, until you finally cancel the order.

Sometimes,they'll ship a partial order (with high unauthorized shippingand insurance tacked on). Then, when you return it, and dispute it with your credit card company, they end up keeping the high shipping charges they added (because credit card companies will often not refund the shipping charges). Of course, they'll try to keep the restocking fees on the partial order shipped, too (since these are clearly stated on their web site).

You may also see a combination of the above techniques (gray market camera + trying to scam you with the extras).

These types of techniques are VERY Common.

I'd do yourself a favor -- stick with a reputable dealer -- one that will work with you if you have a problem.

Use the customer feedback in the price search engines to "spot" these dealers, and also use http://www.resellerratings.com

Here's an article you may want to read, too:


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Old Aug 24, 2004, 9:01 PM   #3
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Read the following article to find out how the scam works:

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Old Aug 28, 2004, 6:53 AM   #4
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Along with the posted resellerratings.com, Also check this website for store reviews:


The resellerratings one has more stores listed though, as its been around a long time now.

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