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Old Jun 9, 2003, 3:25 PM   #1
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Default Any way to reformat Smartmedia cards for Olympus Digicam?

I own an Olympus C-4000z and unwittingly erased the digital images on two of my 128mb Smartmedia cards while they were in my Dazzle 8 in 1 drive. Now when I put these cards into the C-4000z the camera will not recognize or format either of the cards. Olympus blames it on the Dazzle drive and Dazzle thinks that by erasing the images in anything other than the C-4000z that I have erased the camera's ability to read the card. Dazzle also thinks that the cards may now be formatted in 32 bit wheras the C-4000z reads in possibley 16bit. Both of the cards work fine except in the C-4000z.

Does anybody know of a way to reformat these cards so they work again in the C-4000z? Your help is greatly appreciated!!!
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Old Jun 9, 2003, 11:02 PM   #2
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Default FORMAT CARD USING "FAT16" in the Card Reader (or U

Hi there Georenn :

I am not any " pro " at the " knowing " any or all of these digitial cameras ins and outs..I posted more questions and this my attempt at contributing an answer. ;-)

I know when I have had this issue that if Windows (if that's what you are using) that it MAY Have actually formatted the card under the FAT32 system.

All you should ; I think ; to do is ; if you again use the card reader to format ( then MAKE sure you choose) FAT16.

If that isn't the way you'd prefer to proceed ..then I would suggest to insert the card into your camera..and FORMAT ( the card) in the camera..( of course you've maybe tried this?) If the Olympus uses " INIT " card opposed to format card then use that..

Good-Luck Post back here ; if this does or doesn't help and then ( others may also...see if they have any added comment or fix for you.?) Remember the more we ALL share to answering questions we all gain from it..

Bye for now.......Ed~
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Old Jun 10, 2003, 12:59 AM   #3
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There's a thread in the Olympus forum on that topic, "enabling panoramic on non Olympus smartmedia cards?" http://www.stevesforums.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=5450 that had the following link on fixing smartmedia card problems with Olympus cameras:
http://www.marshost.com/~rashmun/
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Old Jun 10, 2003, 3:47 PM   #4
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Yes the smprep utility that came with your Dazzle 8 in 1 reader on the cd. I have the rewritten files for you here.
http://www.marshost.com/~rashmun/

Don't let windows format your cards. Always use the utility.
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Old Jun 11, 2003, 9:26 AM   #5
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Smprep worked for me! If you have specific questions about using the fix above by slobo, just ask.
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Old Jun 17, 2003, 11:52 AM   #6
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Thanks for your response to my inquiry. Your suggestion regarding formatting the card as FAT 16 instead of FAT 32 is what the tech specialist at Dazzle, the company that made my 8 -in- 1 card reader, also suggested. However, I have Windows XP and when I try to re-format my corrupted Smartmecia cards I do not get an option to format as FAT 16, only FAT 32. Any idea how I can format as FAT 16? Thanks again for your help!
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Hi there Georenn :

I am not any " pro " at the " knowing " any or all of these digitial cameras ins and outs..I posted more questions and this my attempt at contributing an answer. ;-)

I know when I have had this issue that if Windows (if that's what you are using) that it MAY Have actually formatted the card under the FAT32 system.

All you should ; I think ; to do is ; if you again use the card reader to format ( then MAKE sure you choose) FAT16.

If that isn't the way you'd prefer to proceed ..then I would suggest to insert the card into your camera..and FORMAT ( the card) in the camera..( of course you've maybe tried this?) If the Olympus uses " INIT " card opposed to format card then use that..

Good-Luck Post back here ; if this does or doesn't help and then ( others may also...see if they have any added comment or fix for you.?) Remember the more we ALL share to answering questions we all gain from it..

Bye for now.......Ed~
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Old Jun 17, 2003, 12:38 PM   #7
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It works from DOS (remember that?), but you might lose your pano mode (no real big deal)

Type format help (or is it help format?) from a DOS window prompt. This is from one of my earlier posts:

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You can format from DOS in Win2K/XP as FAT 16. A 128Mb card needs 16,384 bytes per cluster. The command line is FORMAT (e.g K /FS: FAT /A: 16384 (check the standard cluster sizes by typing HELP FORMAT). From memory, this is a full format so the card gets wiped of all data.
However, it is not a low level format so doesn't cure all problems.

If you use CF/SMprep to reformat from your reader, it will only do 16 bit FAT and selects the cluster size default based on your card size. BUT you definitely lose Pano and whatever else Oly have hidden behind a standard format to get you locked into their media brand. CF/SMprep is the only definitive low level formatter that puts a card which is not blown up, back to generic brand format (which Oly isn't)
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Old Jun 18, 2003, 2:47 PM   #8
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Thanks for your help. However, I cannot get a DOS screen in Windows XP. When I hit a key while the computer is booting up it goes to a screen which only gives me the option of "original configuration". How do I get a DOS screen? Thanks again.
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It works from DOS (remember that?), but you might lose your pano mode (no real big deal)

Type format help (or is it help format?) from a DOS window prompt. This is from one of my earlier posts:

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You can format from DOS in Win2K/XP as FAT 16. A 128Mb card needs 16,384 bytes per cluster. The command line is FORMAT (e.g K /FS: FAT /A: 16384 (check the standard cluster sizes by typing HELP FORMAT). From memory, this is a full format so the card gets wiped of all data.
However, it is not a low level format so doesn't cure all problems.

If you use CF/SMprep to reformat from your reader, it will only do 16 bit FAT and selects the cluster size default based on your card size. BUT you definitely lose Pano and whatever else Oly have hidden behind a standard format to get you locked into their media brand. CF/SMprep is the only definitive low level formatter that puts a card which is not blown up, back to generic brand format (which Oly isn't)
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Old Jun 18, 2003, 3:17 PM   #9
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Wel, I'm a Luddite on 98SE. There are 2 ways I believe on XP. The first is i'm told if you choose the usual GUI format route for the drive letter of your reader, there are more options so you can choose FAT16 (or it might just be FAT) and cluster size.

The DOS route uses that friendly black screen in Command Mode (That's windows DOS under XP). Try going to Programs, Accessories, then select Command Prompt. If it was my XP I'd stick a link on the desktop straight away!
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Old Jun 23, 2003, 9:29 PM   #10
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If you'd rather just put a shortcut on your desktop to go to DOS, here's how:

Right click on the desktop.
Select New, and then Shortcut.
type in "cmd.exe" at the prompt.
Click on Next.
Enter a name, or just leave it as cmd.exe.

That's it!

And now, for what it's worth, if there's a FAT16 available in XP, I haven't been able to find it. FAT(16) or FAT32 are the only options, and all of the cluster sizes available for each don't provide a means of fixing the card.

HOWEVER... just format it using the defaults, and then it will be recognized by your card reader. Using a card reader that comes with smprep.exe (Dazzle, ZIO, etc.) format the card using the smprep.exe utility to get the card to work in your Olympus camera. If you need pano, check out the threads elsewhere on the board on the link that will tell you how to alter smprep to restore the panoramic header.

Been there, done that...if you need more help, please let me know.
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