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Old Aug 4, 2003, 12:28 AM   #1
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Default eBay dSLR Scams - Beware!

I have gotten more than enough email about this so I will post it here for everyone's benefit.

There are a myriad (that's a lot) of scams going on over at eBay for outrageously cheap digital SLR cameras. These are all scams people, you pay your money - you get nothing.

Use common sense. No one is going to sell an $8000 Canon 1Ds for less than $7995 - this is the legit dealer price for a camera with a warranty. Anything else is a scam or at the very least, gray market items with no warranty. Do you want an $8K camera with no warranty? I think not!

The guys all use some 3rd-party email service (hotmail.com, yahoo.com, msn.com etc.) They claim to be in the U.S. but want you to wire money to Romania or some other European country. The eBay auction description looks like one of my reviews because they usually steal my text and photos. Any one in the market for an expensive dSLR already knows the specs and has read the reviews so they don't need the BIG ad. If the price is too good to be true - then it IS too good to be true. If you get greedy you will be ripped off - period!

eBay kills these auctions within hours after somebody complains about them. These guys use eBay ID's with good positive feedback but if you check the feedback you'll see that most of what they've done is buy little, inexpensive items and none of them are photographically related. Now all of the sudden he is selling very expensive cameras. This should set of alarms in your head people, these are scams...

They are all auctioning the latest dSLR cameras - Canon 10D, 1Ds, D60, Nikon D1X, D1H, D100 and Fuji S2 Pro are favorite items to list.

Just resist the temptation folks and put your money down with a known reputable dealer - you get what you pay for !

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Old Aug 5, 2003, 5:43 AM   #2
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Steve,

Thanks for the info. Much appreciated, although those of us who have been around the block should know all this stuff.

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Old Aug 13, 2003, 9:30 PM   #3
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You're right about deals - if it seems too good to be true... On the other hand, you can sometimes get a great deal if you're willing to take a chance. I bought a used Minolta Dimage 7 from a guy on e-Bay who had little feedback, and none on photo items. Since this was his first "big" item to auction, few were willing to bid. I ended up getting a great camera AND a slew of accessories for not very much money. Of course, I bid with the knowledge that I was risking hundreds of my dollars in case the guy wasn't legit. I gambled and got lucky, but I wouldn't necessarily advise others to do the same. Never gamble more than you can afford to lose!
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Old Aug 13, 2003, 10:29 PM   #4
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I am one of the many Im sure that had talked to Steve about Gray Market Camera's and Scams on eBay. Steve is right. If your gonna throw thousands into a camera. Your gonna want to get something legit. I was going to purchase a 10D for $900 (BuyNow!) price. It was new. Anyways, some other person got it before I did (Glad it wasnt me now). But this is what he said after I asked him if he had anymore for that price:

If you are still interested I have another camera new and sealed too. I will sell the camera to you directly for $900 US, final price with shipping and insurance included. The first is sold.
I'll be online.

Second Email----

Right now I'm in Europe, Romania for business. I own an advertising company here and I have connections with a very important supplyer for electronics who imports these products in large quantities for a very low price. As a payment method I prefer Western Union because is very fast. I have a Paypal account but is in US and I have to wait several days for the money to arrive here.

The camera is sealed in its original box and has a certificate for one year US warranty.
I'll be online.



Major Bad new for some unfortunite people Im sure... :/
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Old Aug 14, 2003, 5:24 PM   #5
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I nearly Bought a Fuji 602 Zoom in the UK for 400, suposedly Brand New Through E-Bay. Though no Guarentee, for another 34.00. I could buy a Brand New One with a Two Year Warranty.
I didn't Buy the former.
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Old Aug 26, 2003, 8:04 PM   #6
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Default Re: eBay dSLR Scams - Beware!

> There are a myriad (that's a lot) of scams
> going on over at eBay for outrageously cheap
> digital SLR cameras.


Not just digicams; plasma TVs, LCD monitors
and laptop computers are also popular scams.
Anything with high value-density and flashy
appeal.

> These are all scams people, you pay
> your money - you get nothing.


Commonly it's a "US" user ID with 100% perfect
feedback (and a history of just being a buyer
of Beanie Babies), but the email comes from
some ".es" domain (Spain), and they want you
to wire the money via Western Union to Romania.

> Do you want an $8K camera with no warranty?

Well, if you don't even get a camera,
the warranty hardly matters.

> The guys all use some 3rd-party email service
> (hotmail.com, yahoo.com, msn.com etc.)


It will look like yahoo.es

> eBay kills these auctions within hours ...

Not nearly fast enough.

> ... use eBay ID's with good positive feedback

What's new here is that the recent scam emails
telling people they need to "verify" their eBay
and/or PayPal accounts have paid off for the
scammers.

The emails contain HTML with visible links to
ebay.com or paypal.com
but the actual (non-visible) URL goes elsewhere,
and pops a dialog that looks like eBay or PP,
but of course is not.

They use the gathered eBay user IDs and passwords
to hijack accounts and run scam auctions. They
change the password. So, if you should ever find
that you can't log in to your eBay or PayPal
account, act fast.
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Old Sep 17, 2003, 7:14 PM   #7
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Default After bidding on a D60...

I got 25 or so emails from sellers after the auction ended offering me the exact same camera "new in box" for $800. For fun I sent them offeres for $600 all they way down to $450 & they all accepted the amounts as fine. Needles to say, I never sent them any money & they all had European addresses.
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Old Sep 20, 2003, 6:29 AM   #8
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Default eBay dSLR scams

Beware LOOT also (only in UK I think)
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Old Sep 20, 2003, 11:27 AM   #9
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Default Re: After bidding on a D60...

> I got 25 or so emails from sellers after the suction ended
> offering me the exact same camera ..


You need to:

a. report the seller IDs to eBay for both spam and
for fee-avoidance (off eBay sales)

b. add the IDs to your own Blocked Bidder list if
you are a seller yourself
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Old Sep 20, 2003, 9:07 PM   #10
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I just got this email.....can't say that I can even fully understand what this person is talking about. I did bid on this camera through a reputable dealer on ebay, but even though I would not have persued this camera through an unsolicited email, I am still glad I read this post before hand.


From: [email protected]
Date: 2003/09/20 Sat PM 08:57:54 GMT


Hello,
I saw that you bidding a CANON DIGITAL REBEL EOS 300D , recently. I want to
inform you that I have also a CANON DIGITAL REBEL EOS 300D (NEW) and I wondered
whether you want to buy it. I am been willing
to sell this for 650$US (fees of forwarding and handling included). I am
a salesman recorded and serious on eBay. If you want I could ask for
eBay to contact you and to certify to me am indeed serious and worthy of
confidence. This transaction will be also covered within the framework
of the programme of protection of the fraud of the eBay! I do not want to
enumerate the unit because are the fate of the scammers on eBay. It is
just rather expensive! Please let know to me as soon as possible if you
want this or not.
Thank you very much,


Sounds like shite to me!!
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