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Old Sep 19, 2003, 10:07 AM   #1
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Default Is the Olympus Camedia C-4000Z still a good choice?

Well,

I finally got the pay check for all those extra hours I worked this summer, and some of it is going towards my first digital camera. I've read a couple of good reviews of the Camedia C-4000Z, but they are all a year old. This camera seems to have everything I'm looking for:

- 4 MPix
- at least 3x optical zoom
- good lense
- manual settings

But I would like to know if there are any other cameras I should consider, in the same price range. Since I live in Europe, I'm not gonna pick up a 2nd hand camera from Ebay - I'm getting a new one.

So, what will I use it for? Mostly outdoor pictures: buildings, architecture, landscape. I will take pictures at daytime, but also in the evning/at night.

My budget is $3-400, but I would like to keep it as low as possible.

Thank you all,

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Old Sep 19, 2003, 10:38 AM   #2
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Hello!

If you're looking for a Camedia, then take a look at the Camedia-750 Zoom.

Features are:
4 Megapixel
10x Optical zoom (Wow, though use a tripod for best results)
Manual Exposure modes

Hehehe... Hope I was of help! I'm still figuring out between the Canon PowerShot A60 and the Casio QV-R40...

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Old Sep 19, 2003, 10:46 AM   #3
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will second dark throne recommendation. You can purchase at this link for $459

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Old Sep 19, 2003, 11:04 AM   #4
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Thanks for the replies! I checked the C-750, but here in Norway it's about $200 more than the C-4000Z, so that puts it beyond my budget. But that 10x zoom sure looks nice

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Old Sep 19, 2003, 11:15 AM   #5
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Well, in that case, I suggest you take a look at the Canon PowerShot A70.

Features:
3 Megapixel
3 Optical Zoom

Manual controls and lots of features you can't find anywhere else, for its price! You can then purchase some NiMH's and more memory cards.

There are also some lenses you can buy seperately from Canon.

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Old Sep 19, 2003, 1:41 PM   #6
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You may also want to check out the Minolta DiMAGE S414. It's got a very sharp lens, and uses the same 4 megapixel 1/1.8" CCD as many of the other 4 megapixel cameras.

It does not have a focus assist lamp, so focus may be a bit slow in lower light. However, it's the lowest price camera in it's class, and has a lot of features/image processing adjustments. It's a little slower than some, but it's great lens range (4x) may be a desired feature.

Another camera to consider would be the Nikon Coolpix 4300 -- another camera using the same 4 megapixel CCD as the Oly C-4000z.

You may also want to look at multiple reviews of the cameras you consider, to get more than one reviewers perspective -- paying attention to the qualities in each camera, that may be more important to you (camera size, flash strength, speed of operation, ability to use add-on lenses and accessories, user control of image processing/exposure, lens range/light gathering ability, macro performance, battery life, etc.

Different users will have different needs. For example: someone taking building photos may want a lens with great wide angle capability. Someone taking wildlife photos may want a higher zoom, someone taking photos indoors without a flash may need a lens with a wider aperture/greater light gathering capability, someone taking more sports shots may need a burst mode -- capable of multiple frames per second, someone wanting to photograph flowers may need the best macro capability, etc.

Read through the reviews of the cameras you are considering, taking note of the featues and capabilities that you may find useful, in the shooting conditions you'll be using a camera.

Some of my favorite resources:

http://www.steves-digicams.com - Steve reviews a lot of cameras. Bear in mind, that he's usually less critical than most reviewers though, so take this into consideration. Steve's reviews are great for new users, because he goes through a cameras menu system in great detail. His conclusion section is very useful in determining a cameras strengths and weaknesses, too. Also, Steve usually includes some of the same subjects in his sample photos section for each camera reviewed. This makes it easy to compare photos from camera models you are considering.

http://www.imaging-resource.com - Dave Etchell's does great reviews. He also offers a feature known as the "comparometer", which lets you compare images from cameras you are considering "side by side" in the same conditions. Dave also has a "picky details" section for each camera he reviews, so you can look at things like Startup times, autofocus lag, shot to shot times, etc. Performance can vary dramatically between camera models.

http://www.dpreview.com - Phil Askey is the most thorough reviewer in the business. Unfortunately, because his reviews are so detailed, he doesn't review as many cameras as some of the other reviewers. Phil also tends to be more critical than other reviewers, so take this into consideration.

http://www.megapixel.net - Denys Bouton offers a unique review style, and I find his information very helpful. He comes out with a new online "issue" monthly (on the 15th of the month).

http://www.dcresource.com - Although his reviews aren't as detailed as those from Phil Askey or Dave Etchells, Jeff Keller (owner/editor of dcresource.com) offers unbiased opinions of the cameras that he reviews. He will tell you what he likes, and doesn't like about the cameras he reviews.

Another good resource is a photo sharing web site like pbase.com

They have a camera database, that let's you look at photo albums from their subscribers, from most cameras on the market. Bear in mind, that the photographers skill, and the lighting conditions have more to do with good photos than anything else. Also, unless photos from the same cameras, are taken of the same subject, in the same conditions, there is no way to say which camera performs better.

However, this does give you a way to see what photos look like, from typical users, and you can browse through the albums to see what photos look like in the conditions that you'll use the cameras in.

Here's the link to the camera database:

http://www.pbase.com/cameras
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Old Sep 19, 2003, 2:57 PM   #7
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The answer to your question is Yes the C4000 is a good camera. There are many good cameras but as you have stated the C4000 is within your budget.
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Old Sep 19, 2003, 5:50 PM   #8
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Have have the 4000 for 6 months and love it. great camera for the money.
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Old Sep 19, 2003, 10:27 PM   #9
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Hmmnn... I think there's also a Camedia 740Z somewhere, same as the 750, differences are the 740Z only has a 3.18Megapixel CCD, and the video you can take with it, won't capture sound.

Still, it's cheaper than the C4000 (at least from where I live), and the 10x Optical zoom sure has got to whet your appetite!

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Old Sep 19, 2003, 10:34 PM   #10
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Also the 740 doesn't allow for external TTL flash...if you want to use an external flash with the 740 you'd have to use a slave.
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