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Old Jan 25, 2009, 6:50 PM   #1
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One problem with Camcorders, especially the small ones is you can't stand too close because the your field of view is zoomed in, even at the most zoomed out setting.

Forinstance, the spec sheet for the Sanyo VPC- HD2000, which spec tells you how good it does at in my words "Zooming out as much as possible !".

What is the term for this specification ?

http://www.sanyo.com/xacti/english/p...2000/spec.html

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Old Jan 25, 2009, 7:26 PM   #2
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You are talking about the angle of the lens. A lot of the time now manufacturers give an equivalent to how it would look with a 35mm camera (as a lot of people understand roughly what this means and it is easier if this is discussed on a similar scale), on the camcorder you are looking at the 35mm equivalent is 38mm for photos and 44 for video which is not wide at all. I do all my video work with a Canon SX1 hybrid camera which has a wide angle of 28mm (in 35mm equivalent) so this is plenty wide enough for most situations.

If you want to see some samples you can go to http://www.vimeo.com/user1072168/videos
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Old Jan 25, 2009, 7:26 PM   #3
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I believe you're referring to wide angle or the angle of view when zoomed out (?).

The spec sheet you've linked to states (although rather poorly) that the widest angle (shortest focal length) of this camera is the 35mm equivalent of 44.5mm...

"Videos: f=44.4-710mm(=35mm) "

...this is not considered a wide angle.

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Old Jan 25, 2009, 7:28 PM   #4
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Nice Mark - perfect timing!

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Old Jan 25, 2009, 7:28 PM   #5
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Don't you just love it when that happens LOL.
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Old Jan 25, 2009, 7:54 PM   #6
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Please look at the picture.

Pretend I am sitting beside Mark in the car.
I am close to him, so when I zoom out as much as possible, all I can get is the ACTUAL picture (on the right). What I want is the picture on the left.

So I would get that by having the lowest or highest f value.

Videos: f=44.4-710mm(=35mm)

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Old Jan 25, 2009, 8:10 PM   #7
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So, if this f value is the key part.

My Canon Elura 20 (6 years old).
Focal Length Equivalent to 35mm Camera 44 - 440mm

Sanyo HD 2000
Focal Length Equivalent to 35mm Camera 44 - 710 mm

Sony HDRTG1
Movie: 43-507mm (16:9), 53-621mm(4:3)
Photo: 41-410mm (16:9), 38-380mm (4:3)

I take it lower is better.

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Old Jan 25, 2009, 8:14 PM   #8
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I see some people don't like this zoomed in problem with compact camcorders.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/10/te...ogue.html?_r=1

First, these models have zero wide angle — zip. It's as though they're stuck zoomed in. To get an entire six-foot person in the frame, you have to back up 15 feet — too far away to hear what your subject is saying.

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You've got it - lower is better. You should be looking at a camera that has 28mm at the low end. I don't know anything about the current crop of camcorders available, but optics are the same as still cameras.

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Old Jan 25, 2009, 8:20 PM   #10
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Check this out...

http://www.tamron.de/Focal_Length_Co....html?&L=2

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