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Old Apr 9, 2009, 9:19 AM   #1
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For you regulars, you know I have a posting under the "what camera should I buy" section. In my research, I came across a website that has some great prices on the cameras I'm thinking of buying. Might anyone have any inside info on this website, http://www.need4digital.com/default.asp?

Just checking cause they do have nice prices but want to make sure I don't buy a camera that is missing items it should have in the box and also don't want to lose money or have to pay more due to bad research on my part.



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Old Apr 9, 2009, 9:29 AM   #2
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Do yourself a favor and stick to reputable vendors.

There are lots of scammers around with nice looking web sites with nice logos, etc. Most are located in the Brooklyn area, where they seem to be able to get away with it.

When you see prices that are much lower than you find at http://www.buydig.com or http://www.bhphotovideo.com (both reputable dealers), there is usually going to be a catch. ;-)

The scammers will usually call you to confirm the order (or send you an e-mail asking you to call them).. Then, you'll also find out that they'll want to sell you high priced batteries, extended warranties, stuff that normally comes with the camera anyway, want to include inflated shipping and insurance charges (sometimes unauthorized). Anything to increase their profit (since they can't sell the camera alone at the advertised prices without losing money).

If you don't buy enough of the outrageously priced extras, your camera will suddenly go to backorder status (of course, the web sites still show them in stock and your credit card has been charged). They'll often sell gray market gear, too (not intended for sale in the country you live in with a store versus manufacturers warranty).

This has been going on for years. It's a racket.

Make sure to check out any vendor you consider using http://www.resellerratings.com
(they're a bit better about filtering out fake vendor reviews compared to most)

If they are not listed, avoid them (these guys tend to start up new web sites often under a variety of names). If they have a small number of customer reviews there, avoid them (they tend to try and get away with padding their own ratings with glowing reviews). The scammers even have their own ratings sites now (with all of the stores listed being same old scammers, with the reviews unbelievably good).

Suggested Reading:

How to buy a Digital Camera without being robbed

Note that the vendor you're looking at doesn't have any customer reviews yet at reselleratings.com (and for that reason alone, I'd avoid them, even without doing further research).

http://www.resellerratings.com/store/5th_Ave_Digital

But, a quick Google search found this:

http://thoughts-of-dave.blogspot.com...nd-switch.html

and this:

http://donwiss.com/pictures/brooklynstores/h0205.htm


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Old Apr 9, 2009, 9:41 AM   #3
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Thank you Mr. Jim



They had such nice prices on their equipment. I was just planning on buying the new items and then buying the extras elsewhere but now I am a little nervous about looking at them further.

Just me trying to save a buck.
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Old Apr 9, 2009, 9:45 AM   #4
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Just me trying to save a buck.
That's how the scams work (everyone gets drawn in by the low advertised prices). ;-)

If a price looks too good to be true....

It's a very competitive market (and larger dealers are going to get better prices from distributors, too). So, if you see prices much lower than the better know vendors, caveat emptor.

What camera model are you looking for?

In most cases, http://www.buydig.com will have some of the lowest prices on new gear. Also, check http://www.bhphotovideo.com (their prices are usually very good on most popular gear, and they have a very good reputation). For memory cards, try http://www.newegg.com

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Old Apr 9, 2009, 9:52 AM   #5
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You kids have been most helpful to me and at the beginning, I was thinking quick and easy cameras but after reading this site more, getting helpful information from all you young professionals, we changed our thought process a lot as evident by our list change on that post in "what camera should I buy" section.

They had 2 cameras that get great ratings by Steve in his reviews (they have a FujiFilm FinePix S1500 for $215 and a Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ28K for $199. The website says they are brand new)

And I thought if they come with everything in box like their manufactors say are in box and they are new like advertised, the rest I could buy elsewhere.



Do you think they are phony cameras, like a fake rolex scam?
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Old Apr 9, 2009, 10:00 AM   #6
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Melmeg,

If you buy anything from that site it will be a bad experience. I guarantee it. I have a friend who bought a camera from a similar site and ended up paying $200 more than the advertised price and $150 more than she would have paid to a legitimate retailer.

Still, it's your decision and your money.
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Old Apr 9, 2009, 10:08 AM   #7
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I don't know how to make this any clearer.

See my first response to you in this thread about what happens if you don't buy the outrageously priced extras. You can't buy the camera at the advertised prices without a catch from most of the Brooklyn based scammers (unless you agree to buy outrageously priced extras/shipping/insurance, etc., sometimes charged without your permission).

Look at the prices of Secure Digital cards at the bottom of the Panasonic camera listing you're referring to.

http://www.need4digital.com/product....mid=psdmcfz28k

For example, I see an 8GB "Error Free" card for $499 (and it's a off brand, slow, Class 2 card):

http://www.need4digital.com/product....mid=sdmb8gighs

You can buy fast (Class 4 or Class 6), name brand 8GB SDHC cards for a small fraction of that from a reputable dealer. Here are some 8GB SDHC cards at newegg.com:

8GB SDHC cards at newegg.com

As P.T. Barnum once said, "there's a sucker born every minute".

Please do yourself a favor and don't be the next one. The Brooklyn based scammers are pros and finding ways to get your money. Don't think that you can outsmart them. My advise is to stick with a reputable vendor.

That camera sells for $279.95 with free shipping from buydig.com right now. I doubt you're going to do any better:

http://www.buydig.com/shop/product.a...sku=PNDMCFZ28K

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Old Apr 9, 2009, 10:22 AM   #8
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You were clearer and I appreciate that but you asked what we were looking at there, that's why I put those 2 in my post, because you asked
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Old Apr 9, 2009, 10:23 AM   #9
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No problem. It just sounded like you weren't convinced yet. We see a lot of stories in the forums from members that have been ripped off by scammers (and most of the time, it's the same old scammers that have been around for years, sometimes operating under name names). So, we don't want you to have the same problems.

I did a bit more digging, and I found one for about $10 less ($269.99 with free shipping):

http://www.jr.com/panasonic/pe/PAN_DMCFZ28K/

That's the lowest price I see right now from a vendor that I'd risk doing business with.

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Old Apr 9, 2009, 10:28 AM   #10
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aren't you kind. Your all too sweet to this senior lady. Hope you all know just how much I appreciate all of you



Edit: forgot to sign this....



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