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Old Sep 17, 2010, 3:07 PM   #1
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i am new to editing RAW. I have photoshop cs5 with camera raw editor.
i have been using photoshop to edit photos for years, but always in a destructive method. i love the possibilities with editing RAW, but like i said, i am new to it and would welcome some help. for instance, with a certain photo of girls on a bench, i made edits, but still have the original dng file.

if anyone is so daring, or helpful, here is a link to a zip file containing both the original dng file and the dng with my edits. if an experienced RAW editor would like to show me how good this photo could really look, post it back, and give some info about what they did to achieve it, that would be awesome!

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... for instance, with a certain photo of girls on a bench, i made edits, but still have the original dng file. ...
The same is true with RAW Files.
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The same is true with RAW Files.
what is?
(sorry if i'm dense - its the end of the day on friday)
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You can open a RAW file, but you can't save a RAW file overtop of it.
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That's true, but a bit misleading - DNG files can be saved which can include editing instructions for the Camera Raw operations i.e. Non-destructive edits. Alternatively, those instructions can be saved in an XMP sidecar file alongside the raw file.

This is a very large part of the whole ethos of non-destructive editing of RAW files, and applies equally well to Lightroom or Camera Raw.
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You save it as TIFF, or JPEG, or both, but the RAW files remain intact, wich is great cause you can redo everything.

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I am not experienced with Raw, still trying to find the best-easiest-faster program to use. Still playing around with lots of programs. I have done some developing of your raw file under Darktable raw developer. You can do the same steps under camera raw (maybe the numbers used are similar).

1. Original developed with no alterations.

2. Developed with Darktable: (A). Some minimal noise removal with radius 5 and 0.5 each color, (B). Sharpen with 2 radius 0.5 amount 0.004 threshold to fix for noise reduction smoothing, (C). Added velvia effect to make the grass behind look greener together with some color channel tweaking to remove extra blue & red saturation (0.875 from 1 for each color), (D). Applied a pentax base curve (was created based on color charts)

3. Same as above cropped and rotated to 20 degrees in order to fit the youngest girls face inside the end of the golden spiral.
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