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Old Jan 13, 2004, 6:32 PM   #31
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it's interesting this topic should come up. Just recently I saw somewhere on the web some people tested a mac and a windows based pc exhaustivley to find out why "artistic types" tend to prefer the mac. They found that the windows system was better than the mac in somthing like 70% of thier tests. (I can't remember the exact number, but somewhere close to that.)
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Old Jan 13, 2004, 9:03 PM   #32
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awikenheiser,

Also interesting you couldn't answer the same question.Hmmm Somewhere, ahhh people,ahhh why,ahhh exhaustivley,ahhh somthing like.Can't remember ahhh somewhere close.

Your statement is very interesting.
Very funny.
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Old Jan 13, 2004, 10:01 PM   #33
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Hmmm Somewhere, ahhh people,ahhh why,ahhh exhaustivley,ahhh somthing like.Can't remember ahhh somewhere close.

please, someone tell me i'm not the only on that has trouble understanding this
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Old Jan 13, 2004, 10:28 PM   #34
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I just used his words and shortened it a bit.

Somewhere,people tested,why,exhaustively,
something like,can't remember,somewhere close.
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Old Jan 14, 2004, 12:14 AM   #35
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For what we do eg: take photos, do a little editting who needs a Mac? Do Macs arange the pixels more effectively/cosmetically on the screen? ;-)

I'll build my own systems on a Linux platform and save money for camera equipment, thank you. 8)

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Old Jan 14, 2004, 8:18 AM   #36
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koruvs,

What percentage of people use linux?A very small percent.With a Mac you get both its great (IMO) GUI and for the geeks, they get to use UNIX which is all Linux is.I personally don't use the command line interface hardly at all, except for some disk maintenance etc. and I learned that in a chat forum.
When you say we, please don't include me because I like to make my own choices.Just like everyone doesn't drive a Yugo.
I also like to do video,still photos,add music,do my own editing,burn my own DVDs. All the software is seamless and I don't need a degree in computer engineering to do it.Computing for everyone I love it.
I couldn't tell you how to turn one of these machines on in 1996 and now I can do all this great stuff.
Enjoy what you use.I know I enjoy what I use because it just works.
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Old Jan 14, 2004, 12:40 PM   #37
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Don't forget this big iron! :lol:
... and how about Fibre Channel?
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Actually, believe it or not Linux and Mac users are very close in terms of usage and popularity.

Linux, in paticular Mandrake and RedHat are very easy to use and have very attractive GUIs. There are enough GUI apps in Linux to avoid the command line 95% percent of the time. GiMP is the photo editor that is somewhere in between PaintShop Pro and PhotoShop ...atleast in my opinion. Either way, is just goes to show that companies don't need to charge an arm and a leg for a photo editor or OS.

When I said "we" I ment the people in this form discuss photo edtting, not DVD or MiniDV editting, etc. That being said I recommend Linux as an alternative photo editting platform as it is very stable, easier to use than you think, extremely robust, Free (as are the applications) etc...

I'm sure Mac is fine but, for editting photos, it isn't any better or worse.

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Old Jan 14, 2004, 1:11 PM   #39
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Hmmm Somewhere, ahhh people,ahhh why,ahhh exhaustivley,ahhh somthing like.Can't remember ahhh somewhere close.

please, someone tell me i'm not the only on that has trouble understanding this
Somewhere, someone: http://www.usatoday.com/tech/columni...teinberg_x.htm
... and not just for graphics: http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2004/jan/06xgrid.html
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Darrel1 made the best statement. both have their issues. but as with anything that is on the market look at the numbers. when you currently have over 90% of the home computing world on one operating system and the the rest split up between linux and apple where do you think the most issues will be found. 90% of issues on XP are user induced. the most recent renditions of the apple OS have had their own problems too. this is going to happen when you are writing levels/volumes of code that are in these systems. Windows is the most prominent of the OSs due to its level of use and of course some of their business practices in the press. apple had a great advantage a while back in the graphics department( and boy did you pay for it. video cards that cost well over $1k). these days truthfully they have been eclipsed by the PC due to companies like nvidia and ATI going for volume sales instead of relying on selling a few expensive cards to a select group(and i'm not referring to the game cards either). processing power of the G5 isn't exactly the speediest against PC boxes as demonstrated by:

http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/mul...id=7-6451-6410

why is apple so popular. it is a pop culture icon with some great ideas. the ipod is a visually stunning design but the average owner cannot/will not change the battery when it dies after about 18 months of use. it can be done: $105 currently from apple or $50 and a little bit of work on your part. but apple really doesn't want to fix them. every 6-12 months a new tricker version will come out with some added functionality and will be pushed as the next must have. and it will sell. the entire industry is in a process of shifting from pure computing products to appliances. the gee wiz factor is gone. these items are commedities. they have led the way as they have in the past. apples ideas over the years have been great and they have a patent list that is pretty impressive. their follow through though has been a bit weak. what apple is good at is "the Next Big Thing". marketing at its best.
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