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Old Jan 5, 2004, 9:20 AM   #11
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Ohenry:

After trying Spam Bully and SpamBayes (which both seem to eat too much in my system resources), I am now trying the public beta 4.0 release of I hate Spam.

They now include a Bayesian based learning system in the new release (still beta), so this may significantly improve it's accuracy after learning.

I'll let everyone know how it works.

It seems to be the fastest so far (doesn't bog my PC down). It's install was also a cinch.

On the downside, it's not as full featured as Spam Bully (I really liked it's featureset, but it really slows my system down). Apparently, some of the quirks I saw have to do with conflicts with the AVG Antivirus Mail Plug-ins.

The developers are testing it with AVG now.

But, I'll give your recommendation (I hate spam) a try, and see how well it works with the new features.

Thanks to All for the Suggestions!
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Old Jan 6, 2004, 10:29 AM   #12
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Check out spamex.com. It allows you to create DEAs (Disposable E-mail Addresses), so you can make a DEA for everything you sign up for, such as Amazon, B&H, Adorama, Steve's Forums, etc... Then when you start getting spam, you kill the DEA that got spammed!
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Old Jan 6, 2004, 10:47 AM   #13
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Well Jim, it's not so much my recommendation, but rather what I use and am happy with. To be fair, I haven't tried many others and cannot compare programs. Hope it works out for you, though.
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Old Jan 6, 2004, 10:59 AM   #14
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Ohenry:

Well, I'm using the new 4.0 beta version "I hate spam" now.

It is lacking in functionality that I would want, compared to Spam Bully, and I think I'm probably going to uninstall it today (more trouble than it's worth, so far).

It seems to be missing a very high percentage of Spam, with many false positives, since I installed it yesterday.

It also doesn't have the ability to learn as well as Spam Bully (which you can teach based on folders of known good, non spam messages). "I hate spam" requires you do this with one message at a time (which is extremely time consuming).

Given the number of news letters, invoices, etc., that I receive via e-mail (with not all of their addresses being in my address books) it could take a VERY LONG time to train "I hate spam" (compared to a product like Spam Bully).

After more training with Spam Bully, it did seem to be a vastly superior product from an accuracy perspective (but it was simply too slow to work reliably on my PC, and obviously had some bugs that was preventing it from properly moving messages deemed as spam).

So, none of these products are "perfect", yet (and probably never will be).

I have asked the developers of Spam Bully to let me know when their next beta is released, so I can try it again.

Everyone's mail is going to be different, so I may have a harder time than most users, finding a product suitable for me.

Thanks for the info on the product. I'm sure it may work out fine for many users.
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Old Jan 6, 2004, 12:16 PM   #15
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Based on my experience from using client side and server side spam filters, none are perfect.

Most client side filters need to be "trained" as to what is spam and what is not. You also need to realize that these client side filters just move the spam into a different folder, they don't prevent the spam from getting into your mailbox in the first place.

MailWasher is nice because you can bounce/blacklist/delete emails directly from the server before they get to your mailbox. It is also a great first line of virus defense.

I am also using Comcast and was getting a ton of spam on one of my accounts. Once I started "bouncing" the spam with MailWasher, my spam has dropped significantly. I suggest using MailWasher along with a client side spam filter.
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Thanks... I did look a Mailwasher, but it looks like you need the pro version for the best control.

I just downloaded a newer version of Spam Bully V2.0 beta, that does seem to be faster (the developer did respond, letting me know he finished a new version with lots of changes).

These client side products can also simulate bouncing of e-mail (after they get it from your ISP).

The main malfunction with Spam Bully seems to be a conflict with my AVG Antivirus (6.0.558). When I disable the AVG Outlook Express Plugins, the problems seem to disappear.

So, I'll try it this way for a while first, while waiting on new Spam Bully Betas (and perhaps a more stable final release).

I do like it's learning ability better than the other products I've tried so far, and it's accuracy rate seems to be higher (after you let it "learn" good e-mail based on specific folders).
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Old Jan 6, 2004, 1:15 PM   #17
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I was tired of spam. Especially medicine ones. They are crazy.
They bother people. They are mail terrorists. :evil: :evil: :evil:

At the end I changed my e-mail addresses.

Now I'm free of spam.

But, how they know that I need VIAGRA?.. :shock: :lol: :shock: :?
heheheheheheh....................................
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