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Old Jul 28, 2011, 6:43 PM   #31
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RAW is not a picture. There are no programs that will display a RAW photo. All it is is unprocess data form the sensor. And RAW converters take that data to changes it to a format that you edit and process then develop a jpeg for viewing. You can convert a RAW file to couple of formats. I favor tiff for editing.
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Old Jul 28, 2011, 6:54 PM   #32
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If you turn up the saturation in the camera, then shoot RAW, the saturation in the images goes back to the default. You can only increase the saturation of RAW files in post processing (in DPP, PSE, LR, etc.)
Ah ha! This would explain my confusion of "wait, these don't look any different unless post processed!"

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Old Jul 28, 2011, 7:07 PM   #33
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If you've purchased PSE 9.0, a good companion book is published by Scott Kelby. He goes into great detail as to how to work in camera RAW to get the most out of your images, not to mention using PSE9.

Hope you don't mind but this is a quick post process done completely in Camera Raw. Please bear in mind that you can still use many of the features in Camera Raw on Jpegs.



This is by no means perfect, as this image is not a full sized image but one reduced in resolution for the web- but you get the drift.

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Old Jul 28, 2011, 9:08 PM   #34
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Very nice, Zig! All we need now is some hot charcoal!
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Old Jul 28, 2011, 11:06 PM   #35
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one other thing that would help, especially with food where accurate color is important is to get a color balance target.
If shooting jpg to set your custom white balance correctly,
if shooting raw so you can quickly set the color temperature during raw open processing,

There are many good ones around, a few are

expodisk

Photoflex QuikDisk
Lastolite TriBallance
Pantone GretagMacbeth ColorChecker

Datacolor spyder cube

Or here is a neat trick if you can find the end cap off an old pringles chips tube. They worked very well as a poor mans expodisk!
Trouble is pringles went and changed the end caps on newer cans so it may not work as well
http://www.adidap.com/2006/10/10/diy...expodisc-like/

Also some coffee filters can be used as white balance tools.
http://www.flickr.com/groups/diyphot...7603931692288/

I mostly use the GraytagMacbeth colorchecker and the Spyder cube.
Been switching over mostly to just the spyder cube as I get to trust it more.
Really neat little tool.
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Old Jul 29, 2011, 3:48 PM   #36
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Are you aware of the 'Levels', 'Saturation' and the 'curves' layers in PS?
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one other thing that would help, especially with food where accurate color is important is to get a color balance target.
If shooting jpg to set your custom white balance correctly,
if shooting raw so you can quickly set the color temperature during raw open processing,

There are many good ones around, a few are

<snip>
I followed one of your links, Peter and then another link through there and I came up with this:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lieberkater/3213259438/

Thanks for setting me on the path!
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Neat,
All kinds of ways to get close to a good color balance setting!
The less cost the better too
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Are you aware of the 'Levels', 'Saturation' and the 'curves' layers in PS?
No I'm not.
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All these white balance links are nice. I've been using a grey card but I like the one with the blurred image and wide open aperture. I'll have to try that.

Reading these links brings up a good point. For example, if you use the pringles can lid or the blurring method to set the white balance, do you set your white balance with a shot taken directly at your subject? One of the links said that you take the shot from the perspective of the subject. In the steak shot above I set the white balance on the background of the box just above the steak.
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