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Old Sep 22, 2011, 5:58 PM   #11
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I hear what you're saying, Bynx. Like when a person rips on a picture of a clown because the guy hates clowns. Or the person would prefer to see a sunset over the Atlantic, from New York.
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Old Sep 22, 2011, 6:23 PM   #12
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So, Bynx, what sort of responses were you expecting when you submitted this photo for critiquing?
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Old Sep 22, 2011, 6:51 PM   #13
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Critiques are opinions, and need to be taken as such. Personally, I think DaVinci should have used a better looking model for the Mona Lisa, but who else cares? In your photo, the house lights are the brightest elements, and catch the eye first. The car bumper is considerably less bright and only gets secondary attention. At least from me. That isn't a critique of the entire photo, just that element. If you are satisfied with the result, that is all that is necessary.

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Old Sep 22, 2011, 8:15 PM   #14
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iowa Jim, it seems you are the only one who understands what Ive been trying to say, or ask. I have no animosity as what seems to be coming out by a couple with their remarks. Im trying to understand from someone else's point of view. Especially when those others disagree with something that I feel is an integral part of the photo. What am I missing? I dont have a rule book when I shoot. Its always by the gut. And my gut tells me the car belongs right where it is. I dont think I would even shoot the house with an empty driveway. By the way this photo was in competition with another shot I sent in and I won first place with the other shot. So this isnt really crying foul. Im really trying to understand so I dont repeat this mistake. If in fact it is a mistake.

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Just to throw a bit of gasoline on the fire ( :-) ) I'd suggest that you could have moved a bit to the left and had only one car in the photo. That also might have reduced the reflection from the bumper.

Nice shot as it stands.
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Well in response to your gasoline Bill, I couldnt move enough to the left to eliminate the car without having the branches of the xmas tree from poking across the windows on the left. The lady of the house makes stained glass and did those you see in the windows. They asked to show them at their best. So my window area in the viewfinder was pretty limited. Also when I was shooting this the building could hardly be seen because it was so dark out. Its only with long exposures that we are able to see what we see. By the way there is nothing but a fence and gate to the backyard behind the cars. So since there was nothing to see, no sense removing the cars.
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... By the way this photo was in competition with another shot I sent in and I won first place with the other shot. ...
Can you post the shot that won?
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Old Sep 23, 2011, 7:14 AM   #18
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For you TCav, anything.
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Old Sep 23, 2011, 8:44 AM   #19
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This idea that the brightness of the car draws the eyes. It doesn't draw mine. I control my eyes not some shine. Examining the details of the image are what my eyes do.
Your eyes do it in a different way to the way the camera does it. We
can only see detail in a small area at the centre of our field of vision.
We have great sensitivity but little resolution in our peripheral vision.
This is why your eyes scan the lines and pages of a book. A camera
with a good quality lens can grab the entire page with equal resolution
and sensitivity.

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That's why the importance of the car just never occurred to me. I'm kinda surprised it bothers others so much. Which makes me wonder what the hell I think when I take a pic. I know I wanted the cars in the pic and exactly where they are parked. The closest car was actually parked to the left. I asked it to be moved over so I could get the lights in the garden below the front window.
There many different styles of photography and millions of different opinions
on the subject. A regular Ford or Toyota might be seen as an ugly distraction,
a vintage Bentley might be seen as a thing of great interest and beauty.
Similarly, a slight sheen on the surface of a plastic bumper may be
objectionable to some, while bright highlights on the chrome bumper of
that vintage Bentley might be seen to enhance it's appearance.

As photographers, we sometimes have to work with the scene that is
available. Painters have the luxury of starting with a blank canvas.

FWIW, I like your photo. I suppose it could be enhanced slightly
by airbrushing out the offending reflections on the car. But that might
offend the purists who would accuse you of cheating.
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For you TCav, anything.
Yeah, I'd have picked that one too. That's an extraordinary image. Congratulations.
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