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Old Apr 3, 2012, 8:20 AM   #11
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1d's and 1d have no problems focusing with a f/8 lens
But they are very expensive bodies.

One issue with using live view a lot is it drains batteries quicker, and the new chipped batteries are not cheap (about 120$ each) for the 5dmkii and 7d so carrying many of them is expensive and time consuming to charge!

I find manual focus is much faster and easier in most situations , but then I've only been doing it for 50 years (I can't believe I just said that.)
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Old Apr 3, 2012, 8:25 AM   #12
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Didn't know high-end cameras could focus with f8.

I hope I'll be as experienced as you some day .
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Old Apr 3, 2012, 8:56 AM   #13
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I hope I'll be as experienced as you some day .
In the mean time, I suggest you take his advice.
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Sony doesn't even have something better than the SAL70300 (300mm).
You've been lied to.
Sony has a high-performance super telephoto zoom, the 70-400mm G.

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Sigmas, Tamrons, Tokinas are just crap imho
Oh really? Did you try'em all to reach that conclusion?

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*-Because a good photographer will avoid higher ISOs as much as possible, so the performance at very high ISOs isn't the most important thing, and also, this is totally not-real-world.
WHAT?

Am I the only one who finds the OP's posts to be offensive and out-of-touch with reality?
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I think that most entry to mid level DSLR's are pretty comparable in IQ- with minimal differences in high iso noise/dynamic range/colour etc- and any differences(albeit small) will be at the extreme ends of exposures- rarely used by most shooters.
I also wouldn't mind betting that if you shot RAW with most,then the differences would be almost nil. You can gain an extra stop of dynamic range on the 60D simply by activating the "Highlight tone priority" feature- suggesting camera's default zones are indeed only that.
I do think,however,you're right to concentrate on the lens side of things- as this is where most of your gains/losses may potentially be...
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Electrolyte,

I don't know where you came up with some of the stuff you brought here, but somebody's been lying to you.
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Old Apr 3, 2012, 3:11 PM   #17
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You've been lied to.
Sony has a high-performance super telephoto zoom, the 70-400mm G.
Wow! Is that as sharp as the Canon 100-400mm L? Is it useable with teleconverters? An how does the Sony's in-body stabilization behaves with such a massive length?
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Oh really? Did you try'em all to reach that conclusion?
Nope, only the Sigmas, but at this price range I don't think there's something actually good.
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WHAT?
Well. Let's pretend those kiddos that just set the ISO to the highest possible are pros.
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Am I the only one who finds the OP's posts to be offensive and out-of-touch with reality?
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I think that most entry to mid level DSLR's are pretty comparable in IQ- with minimal differences in high iso noise/dynamic range/colour etc- and any differences(albeit small) will be at the extreme ends of exposures- rarely used by most shooters.
I also wouldn't mind betting that if you shot RAW with most,then the differences would be almost nil. You can gain an extra stop of dynamic range on the 60D simply by activating the "Highlight tone priority" feature- suggesting camera's default zones are indeed only that.
I do think,however,you're right to concentrate on the lens side of things- as this is where most of your gains/losses may potentially be...
Yep, I also think they are similar (although the difference definately noticeable when looking at 100% side-by-side), but the problem is that I don't think Canon is putting enough efforts on IQ. The current cameras are okay, but the future is pretty uncertain imho.
Of course RAW is better, but this happens to all cameras afaik. Or does the image quality looks more equal in RAWs even if it's distinct in JPEGs?
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From SLRGear.com:

Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS USM (Tested)

Sony 70-400mm f/4-5.6G SAL-70400G (Tested)

From PhotoZone.de:

Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 USM L IS

Sony 70-400mm f/4-5.6 SSM G
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... and the Sony doesn't even have something better than the SAL70300 (300mm).
The $1,000 Sony 70-300 'G' is better than anything else in the range from anybody, except the new $1,600 Canon 70-300 'L'.
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It sounds to me like you need to do a lot more research. I'm not sure where you're getting most of this info, but speaking from experience, its wrong...
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