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Old Jan 15, 2018, 7:24 PM   #1
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It's about the lens.
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Is it really so? Like how can it be only with the lens?
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It's about the lens.
I tend to disagree there.
This pic was taken without a lens.
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I tend to disagree there.
This pic was taken without a lens.
A pinhole is, in effect, a lens, just as Einstein's General Theory of Relativity predicted that gravity can be a lens.
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Is it really so? Like how can it be only with the lens?
From Wikipedia's article on Photography:

"Photography is the science, art, application and practice of creating durable images by recording light or other electromagnetic radiation, either electronically by means of an image sensor, or chemically by means of a light-sensitive material such as photographic film."

I would expand that to include the use of a camera obscura to project an image onto a medium that an artist would record with paints, charcoal or other durable medium.

But that aside, the lens, whatever its construction, or the phenomenon that produces a lensing effect, is what makes photography possible.
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A pinhole is, in effect, a lens....
A pinhole is a hole made by a pin....but I can sell you a really good Ziess hole for only a few thousand quid.
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Who is Lucas Gentry?

I did a little digging but couldn't find anything.

But . . . I did find this quote "Photography is not about the camera." attributed to Araki talking about Daido.

http://invisiblephotographer.asia/20.../arakiondaido/

“The photographer has been a slave to the camera for a long time. Good camera, good lens, Leica, etc – these were the masters of the photographers. But in a way, Daido Moriyama is a photographer who started to make the camera his slave. Photography is not about the camera. Of course we need the camera. If you want to write a romantic love letter, we need some tool to write it with. But anything – a pencil or ballpoint pen – is fine.” Nobuyoshi Araki

So the 2 quotes . . . "Photography has nothing to do with cameras." versus "Photography is not about the camera."

Yes. Slightly different quotes, but this one by Araki to me makes a heck lot more sense and IMHO is a lot more eloquent.

Actually, thinking about it, I think this Lucas Gentry is simply wrong.

Photography may not be about cameras . . . but it most certainly has more to do with cameras than nothing! LOL.

For me . . . IMHO . . . "Photography is not about the camera, unless it is."

And you can quote me on that!

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As well say "Archery has nothing to do with the bow."
The bow, as the camera is simply the modality, and when one is practiced fully, it becomes almost incidental to the process. When the archer is sufficiently advanced, there is only the target, and placing an arrow in it does not require though, but only kinesthetic memory. Similarly, if one is sufficiently familiar with one's camera, it doesn't get in the way of capturing the image one sees.
I think this is probably what is being said. It's a Zen thing.
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As well say "Archery has nothing to do with the bow."
The bow, as the camera is simply the modality, and when one is practiced fully, it becomes almost incidental to the process. When the archer is sufficiently advanced, there is only the target, and placing an arrow in it does not require though, but only kinesthetic memory. Similarly, if one is sufficiently familiar with one's camera, it doesn't get in the way of capturing the image one sees.
I think this is probably what is being said. It's a Zen thing.

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Man. That just brought back a memory! LOL.

Pool (Billiards) is not about the cue!

A buddy of mine is a really (I mean really) good pool / billiard player.

Back in college, he had a really nice cue. It was perfectly straight. Nicely weighted.

But, he always used to say, it's a nice cue, but you really don't need a good cue to play well.

So we challenged him.

We found the worst house cue we could find, completely warped, and it even had the tip missing! LOL. And we made him play with that. LOL.

And you know . . . he still skunked us! And his game was amazing!

We even had him turn that house cue around backwards and play that way.

And when he skunked us again, we made him play with only one hand.

And then when he skunked us again, we just quit and sat back and drank a few beers! LOL.

Thinking about it, we should have grabbed a broom and made him play with that! LOL.
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