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Old Jan 31, 2003, 11:26 AM   #11
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You dont want to take the photo in b&w because you loose all channel data. The beauty of p-shop is that you can apply colour filters AFTER the shot is taken, with all the original colours still intact.
One thing i have learned through countless tries (and most fails) in taking photos for b&w printing, is that I had to come up with a bracketing method for colours of a sort. Instead of bracketing for exposures, i had to braket for channels, because diff. overall tones affect greatly seperate colour noise. Take a look at any of your colour shots of a predominant channel, like say a sunset for reds, a clear day for blues etc. In p-shop, isolate the channels and you will see the difference in noise between them.
But by shooting in b&w in the camera, you will lose all data you can manipulate.
In terms of b&w depth, the results from my olympus 3000 and 5050 are very good in print, but nothing like a med format ilford film, or a platinum print; but this is a paper item.
I think my previous attempt to post samples was not succesful' I will try it again here:
http://www.pbase.com/georgef/people
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Old Jan 31, 2003, 11:43 AM   #12
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I will shoot both ways and see if I can understand the concept.
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Old Jan 31, 2003, 11:43 AM   #13
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Thanks folks, Spock's photos aren't my style but I love the last of the Borghese series.

I have a few snaps that I think will be better in B+W with some grain added. I just nedd to get the B+W bit right.
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Old Jan 31, 2003, 11:46 AM   #14
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Boardwalkmist, that's fantastic, amazing atmosphere.

http://www.pbase.com/image/11780345
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Old Jan 31, 2003, 12:28 PM   #15
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Here's a couple of efforts. I tried to make this one look old.
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...62286613pKxgXH

This I think is better, very moody - what do yer reckon.

http://community.webshots.com/photo/...62288540isTDGU
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Old Jan 31, 2003, 12:51 PM   #16
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STEVE6: :shock: wicked shots. I like them both, and preffer the one with the road/sky; i find a simpler b&w image seems more profound in b&w as it accentuates shapes and tones. Very effective use of the full tonal range.
SUPERB PHOTO :!:
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Old Jan 31, 2003, 1:06 PM   #17
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Thanks Geof, It's not often you can say you were inspired by Spock (the second one).
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Old Jan 31, 2003, 2:01 PM   #18
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The way the sunlight is shinning makes it look ghostly. Very spooky then of course so was Spock.
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Old Jan 31, 2003, 2:29 PM   #19
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Steve, ...was that the second SPOCK you SPOKE of?

harharhar...
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Old Jan 31, 2003, 2:50 PM   #20
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Nik efex pro is a series of PS plugin filters..one of which is BW conversion..works well for converting color to bw also warming and other useful stuff
Here I hope is a sample of color to BW
http://publish.attbi.com/wsb-cgi-bin...123581&skip=15
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