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Old Dec 30, 2005, 12:02 PM   #1
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I have a new Stylus 800 and I'm trying to photo fish in a blue plastic tub.
Is there a setting I should use to help with the glare ?
Something that might act a a substitute for a polarizing filter or perhaps some type of attachment for a compact camera that has a polarizer ?
To give you an idea of what I need to accomplish my site is here.
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Old Dec 30, 2005, 1:55 PM   #2
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I've never tried it, butI once read a lens from some polarized glasses, held just in front of the cameras lens would work. Of course you would have to adjust the EV about + 1.5 to 2. And this would mean you would need a tripod, or some way to steady the camera.

They don't, as far as I know make any attachments, for the compact cameras. The lens mounting is so fragile, you would probably break it off trying to slip something on, and off it.

He he is after playing with it in a after shot pseudo polarizer.



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There are some good ideas for making one that attaches to the body around the lens.
This one uses rubber bands to hold a PVC adapter: http://www.pbase.com/sinoline/casio_adapter

Take a look at the FX7 adapter that attaches via the tripod socket: You could base something on that: http://www.go4dc.com/ Or hope they design one for your camera.

This looks to be the easiest and maybe most elegant, but the Velcro stays on the camera: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/re...ssage=15181147

The only reason I would want such an adapter for a small camera would be for a lens hood. I have used polarized sunglasses successfully for years with small cameras, and they work fine.

I'll link this shot I grabbed a couple of years ago because the language isn't appropriate to post: http://www.pbase.com/slipe/image/15070822 The top shot was without the glasses in front of my lens and the other is with an old pair of brownish lens Polaroids I found in a boating store for $5. Notice the trim and reflections from the sky as well as the window.

I have since found a pair of Nikon titanium polarized glasses. They have Nikon color neutral lenses and titanium frames. I couldn't afford anything near that list ($240) for a pair of sunglasses, but Campmor had a discontinued model for an excellent price. They work better than the Polaroids.

You can't really make a good judgment on the orientation of the polarizer through a LCD in the sunlight, so you would have to remove the polarizer and turn it anyway. Then make note of the orientation of your mark, screw the polarizer back on and move the mark to the same o'clock position. I would just tilt my head until I got the best polarization effect and hold the glasses in front of the lens at the same angle. I would be in my car and gone while someone was still fiddling with an adapter.

And the sunglasses are doing something besides taking up space in my pocket when not being used as a filter. Walmart has a good selection of polarized sunglasses in the $10 range. Most are too curved to give an accurate image, but someone posted a photo a while back he took with a pair of full wraparound polarized glasses and you couldn't see distortion. You might also look at what Campmor has: http://www.campmor.com/webapp/wcs/st...Id=40000000226 My preference would be for the Bollé Zyrium Polarized Aviator Sunglasses for dual use with a camera, but they aren't the cheapest.

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I would just go for the sunglasses, since they obviously work pretty well. I would be afraid of anything that comes close to touching the lens, even if the manufacture made it. It's soridiculously easy to misaligned, or break the lens off of these little cameras it's not funny. Then it's several hundred bucks, down the dida-wah.
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Of course you would have to adjust the EV about + 1.5 to 2. And this would mean you would need a tripod, or some way to steady the camera.
I didn't notice your post until I had posted mine. You usually use a polarizer in bright sunlight and often at wide angle. There is plenty of shutter speed generated in auto. I just went out back and took a shot through my Nikon sunglasses and got 1/250 second with my Z750. The Stylus 800 would probably be about the same. Auto mode takes care of the exposure correction and WB shooting through any filter including sunglasses.

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I think he is probably taking these pictures under artificial light, though. In that case, you would probably have to make some adjustment. Like I said I never have fooled with it. I often thought that the auto should take care of it, but I would probably go manual. Since peering through any surface, seems to disturb the auto focus somewhat.

That little filter program I use does pretty good, in some cases. But like a real polarizer it depends on the amount, and direction of the glare. I have had it to do just as well, on some shots as a real filter.
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These photos ( on my site) were taken with " natural light" ( not the beer)
BUT.
Its inside of a shade house, under 63% shade.
Once that sun gets high in the sky the glare still makes its way throught.
I reckon I'll grab a LARGE pair of wrap around glasses, cut the flattest portion out, glue it to a stick and hold it in front of the lens.
OR
...maybe talk to my opthamologist and get him to make me a perfectly flat glass lens ( and glue it to a stick) LOL :roll:
Thanks guys... I'll let you know after trying all of the options posted and my goofy ideas.
Take care.\
Doug ( Blammo)

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Old Jan 8, 2006, 2:48 PM   #8
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I printed this and took it to.." cringe" The glasses dude at Walmart.. LOL.. He's a smart, redneck type, guy and ordered me a paper thin polar lens at .920 inch O.D..
I did machine work for many years, so I 'm spinning up a thin aluminum flange to be attached to the camera body via VELCRO... :-)
The glass will be attached to the flange, within a turned recess, via threaded plastic set screws going through the aluminum flange.
It's a pain in the azz.. BUT.. I like the little camera and carry it like one would carry a pocket knife or cell phone...EVERYWHERE.
So if I can get it to play " double duty" , I will.
If I fail ? I'll bust out the wallet and get whatever it might take to accomlish perfect photos of my fish !

Thanks slipe.. you're on the ball with the linkage!
You are as camera nutz as I am fish nutz !

I'll keep you guys posted.. If nothing else, it'll be fun to try.
Take care.
Doug
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future site : sillyazzflangeforpolarizingastylus800dotnet :?

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There are some good ideas for making one that attaches to the body around the lens.
This one uses rubber bands to hold a PVC adapter: http://www.pbase.com/sinoline/casio_adapter

Take a look at the FX7 adapter that attaches via the tripod socket: You could base something on that: http://www.go4dc.com/ Or hope they design one for your camera.

This looks to be the easiest and maybe most elegant, but the Velcro stays on the camera: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/re...ssage=15181147

The only reason I would want such an adapter for a small camera would be for a lens hood. I have used polarized sunglasses successfully for years with small cameras, and they work fine.

I'll link this shot I grabbed a couple of years ago because the language isn't appropriate to post: http://www.pbase.com/slipe/image/15070822 The top shot was without the glasses in front of my lens and the other is with an old pair of brownish lens Polaroids I found in a boating store for $5. Notice the trim and reflections from the sky as well as the window.

I have since found a pair of Nikon titanium polarized glasses. They have Nikon color neutral lenses and titanium frames. I couldn't afford anything near that list ($240) for a pair of sunglasses, but Campmor had a discontinued model for an excellent price. They work better than the Polaroids.

You can't really make a good judgment on the orientation of the polarizer through a LCD in the sunlight, so you would have to remove the polarizer and turn it anyway. Then make note of the orientation of your mark, screw the polarizer back on and move the mark to the same o'clock position. I would just tilt my head until I got the best polarization effect and hold the glasses in front of the lens at the same angle. I would be in my car and gone while someone was still fiddling with an adapter.

And the sunglasses are doing something besides taking up space in my pocket when not being used as a filter. Walmart has a good selection of polarized sunglasses in the $10 range. Most are too curved to give an accurate image, but someone posted a photo a while back he took with a pair of full wraparound polarized glasses and you couldn't see distortion. You might also look at what Campmor has: http://www.campmor.com/webapp/wcs/st...Id=40000000226 My preference would be for the Bollé Zyrium Polarized Aviator Sunglasses for dual use with a camera, but they aren't the cheapest.
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