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Old Mar 28, 2006, 7:33 PM   #1
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Do Photographers Make alots of money ? (Give an Estimate of paycheck) and about how much do they make just starting out ? how do you even become a well known photographer?
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Old Mar 28, 2006, 10:59 PM   #2
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I hate to sound rude, but are you serious?
If so, you will have to give us way more info before there is even a remote chance of answering this question.
What type of photographer? Wedding? Advertising? Wildlife? Sports/Journalism? Highschool Sports? College? Professional? Do you see my point?
There is the question of where in the world you live? Lets start with what country? Rural or urban? What city? Saleries in NY are quite different than Atlanta.

And I haven't even touched on how in some markets, skill matters to a point and then after that marketing takes over. The best photographer that no one knows about will make very little money. A good photographer that markets himself well might do well (I say might because a great photo that no ones cares to pay for won't make much money.)

Many, many photographers make a living at photography. Many more just have fun with it and make some money. But "a lot of money" is a relative term. I have a friend who is very, very good at photography. After 20+ years, he quit his job last year and started photography full time. In 1/2 the number of working days last year he made as much money as he made as a manager in a large company. Of course, he has no medical coverage (or any insurance).... and he has had to take advertising jobs to make money while the longer term stuff comes around. And he really took it seriously, he hired someone to help him get his "company" off the ground.

If you are really, really serious about that question you might seriously think about finding a forum dedicated to that photography directly. For example: http://www.sportsshooter.com for sports photo journalism or http://www.naturescapes.net for nature photography.

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ps. Why include a photo of the jeep?
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Old Mar 28, 2006, 11:24 PM   #3
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Hi Nikon, sound like you're a young person thinking a career? If you're still in school, your guidance counselor should have some information about different photographer jobs. You could also ask your local newspaper if you think you might be interested in that kind of job. I'm sure there's all sorts of ranges of pay for photographers, depending on what kind of photography and how much you work at it. I like how you have equal space on the right and left side of your jeep photo. Looks like maybe you have "a good eye". Good luck!
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Old Mar 28, 2006, 11:25 PM   #4
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You sure came down hard on this kid! How about some encouragement!
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Old Mar 29, 2006, 7:07 AM   #5
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Take a look at http://www.deed.state.mn.us/lmi/tool...age=salaryTool

If you are not familiar with percentiles, the right part of that little table shows that 90% of wage and salary photographers make less than $26.58/hr and half of them make less than $13.07/hr. This includes the folks who work for Wal*Mart and such like places.

Starting wages are generally taken to be somewhere between the 10th and 25th percentile, or well under $10/hr.

How do you become a well known photographer? By being very good at photography and very good at self promotion.
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Old Mar 29, 2006, 7:27 AM   #6
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I think the most important thing to remember if you're thinking of photography as a career..."Don't give up your day job"
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Old Mar 29, 2006, 9:25 AM   #7
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i live in west hartford connecticut , and i am interstead in nature pictures , but i also wouldnt mind doing a wedding , but the thing is i dont have a decent camera , and i dont know so much about photography , and the collages are so expensive ! i dont see anything really for photography in west hartford , everything is in new york and other places , so where does that leave me ?
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Hello,

I wish you good luck on starting a career in photography. First, you will need good equipment to take good photos. You will also need to know how to use that equipment. To start on the cheap there are a ton of internet resources on techinique and such. search those out and read them.

A good beginner DSLR camera is a place to start. See rebel XT or D50 like your tag. Shoot lots of shots and start a portfolio of your good ones. Perhaps you can talk to your local newspaper and go out and shoot local sporting events at the high schools or parades and things and see if you can get those photos in the paper (maybe for a small fee, maybe for free to get your foot in the door)

A wedding is about the last thing I would want to photograph unless I was very experienced in the field. You have alot of emotions tied into whether the shots come out good or not for this one time event (to the same person anyways

BTW, that last shot you posted is very nice.
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BTW, that last shot you posted is very nice.
That last shot, and others are from here:
http://www.photo.net/photos/TimeCatcher


By Patrick Di Fruscia:
http://www.difrusciaphotography.com/index.php



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Old Mar 29, 2006, 11:57 AM   #10
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Originally Posted by tigerwings1st
You sure came down hard on this kid! How about some encouragement!
Yes and it was intentional. What type of photography you do radically changes the answer. And starting out is hard. I didn't include my normal comment at the bottom which goes something like this:

Now, I said all of that to scare you. Doing photography for a living is not easy. But it is doable. So if you still want to do it, answer my questions and I can give more (directly) useful information.

NikonD50,
If you are really interested in wedding photography then you might approach companies that do it and see if you can't trade them your body for experience. They might be looking for interns (for little or no money) that can help them out in trade for learning how to do wedding photography. That is not an easy market, the pressure is hard... but the pay can be quite good if you do it well. Don't get me started on wedding photography (unless you really want to do it.) I have strong feelings about it.

Since you listed nature photography, I seriously suggest you look at www.naturephotographers.net and www.naturescapes.net. There are just amazing people over there that can be very helpful (at different times I've been active on both those forums.) I'd also suggest you find a copy of this book:

John Shaw's Business of Nature Photography: A Professional's Guide to Marketing and Managing a Successful Nature Photography Business
by John Shaw
[/b]http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/081744050X/qid=1143654714/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-7012352-6549401?s=books&v=glance&n=283155
It is a bit old now, so some aspects are out dated (like dealing with digital submissions) but there is a wealth of information in it.

Have you thought about what type of nature photos you want to do? Landscape? Animals? Macro? You don't have to decide, but think about it.

How you plan on marketing it will effect what you shoot. If you want to sell posters one way to do it is to keep your shots local and sell to companies and in local fairs. People are more likely to buy something they connect to... and the best connection is if they have been there. If you lived in Vermont, there is a reason why covered bridges are so photographed. People love them. Selling a grand canyon image in Vermont is a bit harder because people have less of a connection to it. Will a great grand canyon image still sell? Yes. But I bet its easier to sell a "covered bridge in fall" shot.

If you want to sell images to magazines, get good at writing. They are more likely to buy it if you have an article to go with the pictures. Same with books. The writing is just as important.

Does that help?

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