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Old Apr 27, 2003, 1:27 PM   #1
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Default Noise, focus... Is my new camera defective?

All my images seem to have a great deal of noise, and the focus seems a little off to me as well.

It's a new Sony P9 and all pics are at the highest resolution. Please have a look at these pics and let me know if I'm missing something obvious. Thanks!

http://www.gregfeld.com/Tivoli1.jpg

http://www.gregfeld.com/Tivoli2.jpg

http://www.gregfeld.com/Outside2.jpg

This one's pretty good where it's in focus, which makes me wonder if it's not a noise issue so much as a focus issue:

http://www.gregfeld.com/GreatMarty1.JPG
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Old Apr 27, 2003, 1:56 PM   #2
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when viewing the photos on a computer its best to view them at the resolution of your screen

when printed/viewed at smaller size they look sharp and clear

hope my college leavers party thing looks as cool as that one
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Old Apr 27, 2003, 2:01 PM   #3
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Dave, could you elaborate on that first part (the resolution of my screen)?

I agree that they look OK when they're smaller.

I'm also beginning to think this is a light issue. When I take pics in bright light, they look worlds better--and the image files are almost twice the size. For example:

http://www.gregfeld.com/SquirrelFood1.jpg
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Old Apr 27, 2003, 2:12 PM   #4
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Shmackey,
IMO, there is no focus problem, and since it was an interior shot without flash, the high ISO setting leads to noise presence, normal.
The main issue is the movement blur, you are probably use your camera without tripod or monopod, you can see this blur on the little lights .
As for the noise, pass these 3 first pics throught Neatimage, and you will be surprised.

PS: The pic with the car ( outside) was taken at 1/50 5.6 , which means a bad cloudy day I guess, not really enough light for a great outdoor pic .
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Old Apr 27, 2003, 2:35 PM   #5
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KCan, very good point. I'm used to meaty SLRs, which I can hold like a vice after years of experience. Holding this tiny little P9 is a trick for me--but I got it because it's small, so I'll have to figure it out.

That SquirrelFood1 pic I posted makes me feel much better. It makes your ISO explanation make perfect sense.

Right now, I'm printing out one of those indoor pics and the squirrelfood pic as 5x7s on my S800, which makes perfect prints with the right paper. We'll see how that goes.

Can you tell me a little about Neatimage?

Thanks for all your help.
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Old Apr 27, 2003, 3:17 PM   #6
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I've seen a few references to neatimage. I would be interested to learn a bit about it as well. Can Adobe Photoshop elements do the same?
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Shmackey,
Neatimage is a denoising/sharpening specialized software. What is great is the free version is full featured , but only does not allow batch processing (queuing) like the paid version.
http://www.neatimage.com
I use it often with pic from my Minolta D7i ( which is “noisy” but preserve so much detail by not noise reducing too much in the camera) , you can also fine tune the sharpening process .
I like it because when you are used to it, you can denoise the pic with a customized pattern / setting. Give a try with auto setting only, you will see by yourself. It take a little time for the learning curve through.
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NHL references many things about Photoshop a while ago, I guess in the Minolta forum, I will post the link if I can find out.
PS: Oh ... I saw about Photoshop, not Photoshop elements

http://www.stevesforums.com/phpBB2/v...ighlight=noise
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Shmackey,
Yeah, there is a price to pay for the light weight of the camera; if not it’s the high price, I would buy a SLR class digital camera. I use my monopod much more often with my digital. Also , when I attach my Metz bracket flash to, it add weight to the camera and help a lot.
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Thanks for the information on the NeatImage. I'll have to give that a try on some of my pics.
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