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Old Mar 28, 2010, 2:45 PM   #141
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Here is version two - Same alteration but no saturating the image:

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Old Mar 28, 2010, 2:53 PM   #142
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More detail? I dont think so. Look at the difference between mine and yours looking through the left window. I can definately see and blue and red object there. I can just barely make out the red object in your shots. Thats just an example. But considering the quality of the pic Im not surprised to see much of a difference.
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More detail? I dont think so. Look at the difference between mine and yours looking through the left window. I can definately see and blue and red object there. I can just barely make out the red object in your shots. Thats just an example. But considering the quality of the pic Im not surprised to see much of a difference.
Look at the thin row of left bricks?



There's not much to choose between these images. I can easily reduce contrast and get the window more visible, and in turn lose the detail on that row of bricks. But honestly, did HDR improve the image?

Point two - I will be happy to do this over on a bright sunny day...

But I suspect the results would be the same. And what have I been saying all along? HDR is a good technique in appropriate circumstances. I don't think there's any version of this building, from this angle, Sunny, cloudy, whatever, that HDR will improve. This is because sunny, cloudy, whatever, the camera can handle the range. Short of making data up, what's the HDR program going to do?

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And on top of all of this, I shoot RAW, which wouldn't help at all in this scene, for the same reason that HDR wouldn't help at all...

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Ok you got better looking bricks and I can see more through my window. How about shooting it at night before its dark dark and the lights are on?
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Ok you got better looking bricks and I can see more through my window. How about shooting it at night before its dark dark and the lights are on?
Look, we both "won and lost" on this test. You claimed that HDR would improve Any JPEG, I said that HDR, on an image within the range of a camera, would possibly "degrade" the image.

Now as for night, fine -

Wont change anything...

I'll post as soon as it gets a wee bit darker.

But the bottom line on this test is basically leaning to justify my point. Be fair here. BTW, I ran Photomatrix as well, and didn't get your results. Not bad, because it doesn't scream HDR, but not as good as yours.

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Old Mar 28, 2010, 8:10 PM   #146
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Ok, here are the new files. Shot at sunset (and considering the cloud cover, what does "sunset" mean?)

(Now psst, keep this to yourself, don't let anyone else know. But I also shot this scene in RAW, and it dusts the pants off my JPEG version, so that if your version beats my JPEG version, I'm going to post the Raw, and claim it was the original JPEG)

_SDI6285.JPG (JPEG Image, 2640x1760 pixels) - Scaled (36%)

_SDI6286.JPG (JPEG Image, 2640x1760 pixels) - Scaled (36%)

_SDI6287.JPG (JPEG Image, 2640x1760 pixels) - Scaled (36%)

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Old Mar 28, 2010, 8:46 PM   #147
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All this proves is that we are peeping toms.
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Old Mar 29, 2010, 1:07 AM   #148
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just run this on very basic/stock settings as i dont have time ..... got to go to work
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Old Mar 29, 2010, 7:06 AM   #149
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@ Bynx: Don’t have the time to leave a lengthy comment doing justice to it, but your picture of stained glass windows (having seen it in the dark) makes a good example for the use of hdr imo, attaining a moment’s ‘moving’ impression as faithfully as possible...


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Old Mar 29, 2010, 8:04 AM   #150
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Thanks Bahadir. They are quite beautiful when you stand before them.
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