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Old Apr 23, 2008, 1:59 PM   #91
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Yeah I hear you. I own a Cannon MiniDV camera and although its not HD, it takes very good quality video but I really hate to go through the proccess of transfering the video from the tape to the PC so that's why I opted for one of this SD Card cameras and to be honest, the quality of this Jazz 188 is better than my MiniDV Cannon!!!!!

And as I mentioned before, you don't need the software that comes with the Jazz to work with your videos. I am using Cyberlink Producer 6 and it is awesome. If you haven't tried it, go to Cyberlink's web site and grab the trial and try it. You'll love it. Super fast encoding and perfect all the time.



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Anyways, as soon as I get home I am going to go out with the camera and take some shots around and upload them so you guys can see. Also, I will make a DVD of the shots and upload the ISO somewhere so you guys can burn it and look at it on the DVD player so you can see the quality of the video - which I think is great for a cheap camera like this - and better than Aiptek's, which I used to own one (The A-HD). I will try my best to make a DVD ISO small enough for download - less than 200MB.

See you later at night when I get home boys. The review and testing continues....

Great, always interested in how others perceive the strengths and weaknesses of these cameras.

I'm amazed at how much camera you can get for $99 now. My first solid state camera that got me into this was an Aiptek IS-DV which I got at Target for $92 on sale at the time. I was reluctant at first to buy one as
up until the VGA/30fps devices like the IS-DV came out, most were just toys really with poor 320x240 low frame rate video at best. But I wanted something that could be carried with me anywhere so I could capture video of our son as he grew up.

I was pleasantly surprised at the time how good the video was on it considering it was using an SD memory card which at the time were not up to the high capacities we have now.

Sadly I managed to lose it but then it gave me the motivation to get another solid state camera from Aiptek and I haven't been back to tape since
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Old Apr 23, 2008, 2:13 PM   #92
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I use a numner of programs, I have no.3 of that. and that sounds great like the program when I used the older models.

I also have a jvc cam tape., used it , and need to clean the unit taken many video clips.

I always hear wow what settings are you using on youtube for that? while others cannot get a clear shot. so I am guessing that the avi will do fine for Online puposes while I say Pc camcorder, not home theater unit.

What I need to do later, would grab One scene a few cams, add color etc to the clip, and then see where the Jazz, or others match up.

If the Jazz has vivid, stauration saphire film age etc effects. I am most sure the colors are tuned fine for me, while I believe the Aiptek somehow is not soft but missing something. these tests ata later time , an idea if others want to try?
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Old Apr 23, 2008, 8:01 PM   #93
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(I wrote a longer post but it didn't go through). Mine is going back. The fixed focus switch is broken and makes it so that nothing except macro is properly in focus (if you slide it all the way to the "mountains", everything is out of focus. If you slide inbetween, in focus).

So, with that kind of shoddy quality, I think I'll return it and maybe get an Action HD when available.
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Old Apr 23, 2008, 8:10 PM   #94
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sorry to hear that, this leads me to just lock mine in place then. the switch cover is thick, but i would say the interior is super thin like the A-HD series, not the Action which is elctronic. the Aipte k if broken will be stuck, and like the Jazz now in macro only mode.

It is bad to see the device fall to peices in ashort time, I have been checking Jazzcameras.com since RGVCAM posted his find, and only seen the site up once,wish I could, find out some info and wonder if they know about it.

Eitherway it will work out you'll move up to a better cam, and be happier in ways. Either way a Jazz, or Aiptek Enjoy it

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(I wrote a longer post but it didn't go through). Mine is going back. The fixed focus switch is broken and makes it so that nothing except macro is properly in focus (if you slide it all the way to the "mountains", everything is out of focus. If you slide inbetween, in focus).

So, with that kind of shoddy quality, I think I'll return it and maybe get an Action HD when available.
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Well as promised, here's the test videos I made today - about 2 hours ago. The videos are in its pure format, straight from the SD card. Please excuse the shaking. It was me walking while filming, although I did stop to film a few times. The videos, as you will notice, are of very good quality considering it is cloudy as heck today here. There was a bit of wind which you will hear, but not as bad as in the Aiptek. Also please excuse the last scene on the Inside Test video. That was my roommate sending a message to my brother....LOL.

This camera does a pretty good job for being cheap. It is not something you'll want to use to record a wedding, but it does the job for everyday play-around home videos and YouTube. As you will probably notice, the camera does an excellent job at close-up better than at a distance. The quality of close-up videos is very good.

The sound quality is very good as well. It picks up every noise but yet it does not show the "roughness" of the Aiptek sound quality, which is bad, especially on wind. If Aiptek finally fixes this problem, they would have an almost-perfect cheap HD video camera.

Well I hope you enjoy this test videos. Please feel free to comment on them whether it is negative or positive input. I want to read what you all think. The links are below. I suggest you take the videos and make a DVD and play it on your DVD player to see the quality on your TV. I promise to make better videos as soon as the weather gets better (sunny) to further test this - in my personal opinion - wonderful little toy.

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Inside Test Video: http://www.filefactory.com/file/a9071d/

Outside Test Video: http://www.filefactory.com/file/6864a1/
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Scor. watched this video. great job.

its a C-Note dropped, and if one can accept that, and understand that it is not a major studio camcorder. they'll be happy the ycan understand you got just one clip on film and you save it for life its Priceless.

Indoor shot was sweet in ways b/c the food on top exploded out meaning perfection. The a adjustment to the room was nice as well, never kept dark.

the problem that may be for none some most or all, are the Noise in video. you see grain and well not perfect. have loo at hte outdoor later

very happt with a true lowe end priced model

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Old Apr 24, 2008, 9:55 AM   #97
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I was looking back at some old IS-DV clips of my son indoors yesterday and I can tell you that this Jazz Cam certainly beats that device in terms of low light ability. There were many clips that were very dark on my IS-DV that would be no problem with the Jazz Elite. I guess it's a case of better to have a noisy video you can actually see than none at all!
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For me, the Jazz clips seem too bitrate starved.

My VLC player reports a 4Mbps bitrate.

Is that what others are reading?

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The thing about those clips that caught my eye was that the digital zoom wasn't as bad as I expected. I've seen some HORRENDOUS digital 'zooms' but, when fully zoomed in, the objects in those clips were still distinguishable.

There definitely was a lot more noise, which was expected, but as least it wasn't big blocks of color that may somewhat look like a car tire :-)

Those were some nice clips showing off the capabilities of the camera. Thanks!

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I guess the biggest difference in which side of the fence you are on is previous experience in regards to Hybrid cam ownership...

For less than I paid a year ago for the Aiptek DV5800, I now have a quality (albeit not perfect) that is easily 3 times better with the Jazz 188!

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