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Old May 7, 2008, 10:08 AM   #1
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Onboard camcorder microphones are not ideal.

Better sound can be acquired with high quality field audio recorders.

Examples:

1. Sony "Hi-MD" (newest MiniDisc) recorders:

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-MZM200-Pr...827&sr=8-1

At $300 - $400, these are quite expensive. Plus, Sony may be phasing them out. They do yield excellent quality field audio, however. I have these.

2. Olympus $114 DS-30:

http://www.amazon.com/Olympus-DS-30-...085&sr=8-1

These are said to be very good.

3. Zoom H2 $200:

http://www.amazon.com/Handy-Portable...170&sr=1-1

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Old May 7, 2008, 10:36 AM   #2
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If anybody has found less-expensive tools that still record 44khz audio in the field, I'd be interested to know about them.

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Old May 7, 2008, 2:07 PM   #3
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I have two Zoom H2, which are really, really good, and a handful (six) of 512MB Sapphire Ivory MP3 player/recorders for use with lapel microphones. The Ivory aren't available any more AFAIK, but are the cheapest (ca $30) way of recording 44.1/48 KHz from a microphone. MP3 conversion speed is 192Kbps.

ps: The "Dead cat" wind sock which comes with the Rode SVM microphone (which, of course, every serious camcorder audio enthausiast owns :-)) fits over the Zoom H2 very nicely and is very handy if you are using the internal microphones out-of-doors.

pps: here are the places I bought mine from:
http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16855199001
http://jacksmusicfactory.com/default...ereo_Video_Mic

and for the Zoom H2 I found some online 10% coupons without any real problems
http://www.samsontech.com/products/p...&brandID=4

pps: The Rode SVM look rather amazing on a Sanyo HD1000 - the mic is bigger and heavier than the camcorder - but the combination sounds superb...

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Old May 7, 2008, 2:57 PM   #4
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If anybody has found less-expensive tools that still record 44khz audio in the field, I'd be interested to know about them.

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You can usually find less expensive ones on the music store sites under recording. Here's a two track for $129 that comes with 4 microphones and records to Flash Memory:
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Dynasoni...74-i1397369.gc

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Old May 7, 2008, 3:05 PM   #5
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Thanks for all of the suggestions. I did not know about these others you've listed.

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Old May 7, 2008, 3:08 PM   #6
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A couple years ago when 3 chip cams broke below the $1000 barrier, there was a lot of talk about this.

At the time, it was decided that the way to go was with the Iriver mp3 player/recorder because it had a mic jack, could fit easily in a shirt pocket and was under a hundred bucks!!!

Not sure of the model number but by now, ebay ought to have something o' plenty! :G

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Old May 7, 2008, 3:51 PM   #7
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Looks like Sony is making some decent recorders:

http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/...52921665364010

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-ICDUX70RE...845&sr=1-2

$100.

44Khz recording.

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Old May 7, 2008, 4:26 PM   #8
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Trevmar,

I wish now that I had purchased the Rode shotgun mic with the fuzzy (zeppelin) wind sock that you referenced.

I didn't know about that one.

I bought the Audio-Technica 835b shotgun.

It's a good mic, too, but it's pretty long and a little awkward.

This mic comes with a foam wind cover, but I'd like to get a decent fuzzy for it.

Any suggestions on where I might find that at a sale price?

Thanks,

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By the way, do the fuzzy wind socks really perform that much better than a typical foam wind cover?

Would a new fuzzy fit over my existing foam cover?

Or do these new fuzzies have their own internal foam lining?

Prices for these are all over the map.

Rycote windshield suspension kit ($700):

http://www.fullcompass.com/product/231996.html

Rycote "Softies" ($110 - 120):

http://www.markertek.com/SearchProdu...amp;pagesize=0
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On the Zoom H2, if you compare the foam screen which comes with the Zoom H2 to the dead cat, with the foam you can blow on the unit and hear significant wind noise. With the dead cat you can blow as hard as you like and all you hear is the puffing and panting :lol:

The SVM dead cat does not have any foam, it is thick and goes straight over the wire grill.

You might try Jacks' Music Factory to see what price they can give you on Dead Cats, he seems to have pretty good prices on that sort of stuff...

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