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Old Nov 29, 2008, 12:55 AM   #541
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The wife has made off with the other computer that has my Magix 14 on it to do some continuing education work.

As soon as I get it back I'll get some new footage posted and keep track of all the settings.

If I can get it to look as crisp and clear as yours I'll be happy. Since we are using the same products I'm hoping I can get mine sorted out shortly, thanks for the help!
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Old Nov 29, 2008, 4:37 PM   #542
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Hi Neil,

Rearding the 1080p pixelated video of a cute dog:

I just went to the YouTube video and it had this information:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4vYxVEImqU

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<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="
http://www.youtube.com/v/w4vYxVEImqU&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

Not what I would have expected. Maybe it's nothing, but I hope it helps.



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Old Nov 29, 2008, 5:30 PM   #543
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I thought I'd add a little information about the DXG 595v hybrid camcorder for the benefit of someone who might be browsing for information.

The included software isnot too bad. It does have some limitations that can be worked around. Istarted with DXG 595v .mov files in 1080p, 720p and WVGA (60fps).

I liked the Presto Videworks editing software method of controlling the start and end of various F/X. The chroma key is good too. It comes with a decent library also. It uses older codecs to export files, mpeg-4 v2 and H.263 as well as uncompressed AVI. Since it doesn't burn directly to DVD you'll need to export to a file and the burn to DVD using the Total Media Extreme program.

The Total Media Extreme DVD burning program allows one to burn a DVD with menus very nice and easy.

Back to exporting files.

I could rename the H.263 exported files from .avi to .mov and it was recognized by all my software (Including VideoStudio Pro x2 etc.). The exported H.263 file was more than twice the size of the source file. Some increase was expected because of added effects. It introduced some artifacts that could be noticed.

The mpeg-4 file exported about 15% larger than the source file, probably because of the added effects. I could leave it named with .aviand it worked too. It produced few artifacts comapred to the H.263 file above. Since it uses an older codec the output wasn't as good as the newer codecs, but you had to look carefully to notice the difference.

The Presto Mr. Photo 4 program does theediting for still images in case you don't have Paint Shop or Photo Shop programs. It seems to make use of any resident photo editing programs you might have. It picked up a photo editor from Microsoft office for example.

The software was easy to learn but some of the capabilities require a little digging. The supported file formats aren't the latest, but you can still get the job done. Anyway, Ithought it was a nicepackage and I'm glad I didn't ignore it.
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Old Nov 30, 2008, 4:52 PM   #544
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Jim G3 wrote:
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Hi Neil,

Rearding the 1080p pixelated video of a cute dog:

I just went to the YouTube video and it had this information:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4vYxVEImqU

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<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="
http://www.youtube.com/v/w4vYxVEImqU&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

Not what I would have expected. Maybe it's nothing, but I hope it helps.



Since you pointed it out I was noticing that too, but as far asI can see there's no way to change the parameters.

Are those the same numbers everyone is getting for their video on the height and width?

Soon as I get some sunlight around here I'll get some more video shot and posted to try this out.


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Old Nov 30, 2008, 6:48 PM   #545
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Hi Neil,

Hmmm. Using Magix Movie Edit Pro 14, I took a 1080p .mov file and converted it to a .wmv file at 480 X 360 resolution. This was conveniently close to the 425 X 344 on You Tube.

The bitrate went from about 6 Mbits/sec to about 1 Mbit/sec and the results looked much better than on You Tube.

So I reduced the bit rate on the 480 X 360 file by a factor of nearly 4. That produced results somewhat similar to the You Tube video. I don't know how to read the bitrate of the You Tube video, but if it is at 425 X 344 I'm thinking it should be around 700k to 1 Mbit/sec for good results.

The only other way I could duplicate a similar effect on a 480 X 360 video was to add the mosaic effect in Magix. If it was my video I'd have to think I might have unintentionally added it. But that would be me.

Yes it looks like others get the same numbers for resolution.

I noticed a similar video "my cute pekingese" by MSAKTOR had 425 X 344 resolution. The dog was farther away from the lense, so there wasn't as much motion across the whole picture. So there was less artifacting. But half way thru it; some pixelated artifacts momentarily pop up as in your video. You see them best against the white wall.

So I'm thinking the bitrate / bandwidth allowed by You Tube is too low to support lots of motion in the frame. I'll bet that with less camera motion and close up activity, the videos will look better.

That's my guess, hope it helps.
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Old Nov 30, 2008, 7:36 PM   #546
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Jim G3 wrote:
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Hi Neil,

Rearding the 1080p pixelated video of a cute dog:

I just went to the YouTube video and it had this information:

URL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4vYxVEImqU

Embed
<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/w4vYxVEImqU&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

Not what I would have expected. Maybe it's nothing, but I hope it helps.


The 425x344 is NOT the video resolution! That's the standardyoutube video player object's embed size, and just a stretch function rather than a re-encoding at that width/height. By downloading the actual flv files used in youtube, I found that this video's size is actually 320x180 in Standard Quality and 480x270 in High Quality.

Also, High Quality does not give best quality for 720p videos. For Best Quality add &fmt=22 to the end of youtube video url. For example, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4vYxVEImqU&fmt=22. Now the video (mp4 now instead of flv) retains its original size of 1280x720! I recommend watching it in full screen mode. (Note: if the video is not HD, the video quality with &fmt=22 will be very poor -- worse than standard quality -- so it is easy to tell if you've uploaded your HD footage properly or not)

Here's another comparison (davedude's video):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7M3mYNdfr0
and click on 'High Quality'.
Then, go here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7M3mYNdfr0&fmt=22
and see the difference between the two.

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Old Nov 30, 2008, 10:40 PM   #547
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Interesting stuff.

I know I didn't add any effects from Magix, in fact I made certain I went straight from the camera to Magix and then to the "export" menu without even doing any trimming of the video.

The motion may be a key here, when I get some more footage done, I will pull back a bit and try for some slower moving objects. Should be able to do some of that tomorrow, it looks like we will have some better daylight conditions here for me to shoot.

Appreciate all the input!!


Edit:

Here's a new one, and it looks a lot better. I'll set up something inside with some lights and maybe some better subject matter other than a beat up Fiat parts car!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoGfUh1Ytpk&fmt=22

Just loaded another one, the wind was whipping pretty high today and you can hear all of it on the mic! But the image is looking much better

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqZslaTc77g&fmt=22

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Old Dec 2, 2008, 1:31 AM   #548
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I ordered this camera from Amazon and it arrived today. I didn't get much of a chance to play with it because by the time I got it all unpacked, it was starting to get dark out, and it was very foggy here all day anyway so the shooting conditions were suboptimal. Still, I took it outside and shot the street for a few minutes and then played with the footage in Vegas 8. Looks like this is going to be a fun little inexpensive cam to play around with. The raw footage is nothing special but if you wash it through an editing program (like Vegas) with the right effects, the footage loks pretty good.

The biggest shortfall I see with the camera is the slow autofocus and the noisy zoom. Still, this is a cool starter camcorder.

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Old Dec 2, 2008, 2:00 PM   #549
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I've read the whole thread and was ready to pull the trigger on one of these great cams.


http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...uct_id=9914700

When I go to Walmart.com and try to order it, though, they now report "Not Sold Online" and "Not Sold In Stores"..

Using the search function on their website also no longer finds the camera. Only having the link from previous posts can it be found on their website


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Old Dec 2, 2008, 3:13 PM   #550
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I've read the whole thread and was ready to pull the trigger on one of these great cams.


http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...uct_id=9914700

When I go to Walmart.com and try to order it, though, they now report "Not Sold Online" and "Not Sold In Stores"..

Using the search function on their website also no longer finds the camera. Only having the link from previous posts can it be found on their website


That's weird! And they show the price up $10 from what it has been.

And after I wrote a nice review for them and everything.

Edit:

If it's any consolation, the 595 is still offered at Amazon, although it's over $200

Wonder what happened? What, did China run out of plastic all of a sudden?



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