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Old Nov 21, 2008, 3:52 AM   #1
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I've been looking at hybrid cams from several manufacturers. Sony, Sanyo, DXG, SVP, DigiLife, and Aiptek.

Which models have LED lights for shooting in low-light?
I know that most hybrid cams are very poor in low light, so I assume using LEDs for light would make a BIG DIFFERENCE, right?

So far, I know of:

DigiLife DV1080HD
http://www.digilifeglobal.com/DV1080HD.htm

Sanyo Xacti VPC-100
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...i_sku=10629517

Has anyone used either of these hybrid cams with the LEDs?
Do you think having LEDs is far more important than having a 'night mode' or better quality sensor, etc?

The latest Aiptek AHD Z600 aka Aiptek HD GVS does not have LEDs, and is available for purchase here:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001GXR03U

The latest Sanyo Xacti VPC-HD800 does not have LEDs, and has info here:
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Sanyo-Xacti-VPC-HD800-HD-Digital-Video-Camera-GOLD_W0QQitemZ330282180872QQcmdZViewItemQQptZDigit al_Cameras?hash=item330282180872&_trksid=p3286 .c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205|66%3A2|65%3A12|39% 3A1|240%3A1318

I'm willing to shell out up to $400 for something that can look decent in a dark setting, but I don't think even an Xacti VPC-HD800 would beat out a cheap Aiptek with LEDs, right?

I cannot find any sample videos on Vimeo to showcase the effects of the LEDs... please help me out!

(any camera I purchase I will upload test videos in raw format for direct download & post on the board)
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Old Nov 21, 2008, 5:36 AM   #2
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Your Answer: NO.

2 leds are not powerful enough, nor I think 4 are as well. I will, if it makes a big difference a video light video, but i think I did this awhile ago on certain modes I had the Aiptek IS-DV2,.......

Digilife HD1080HD:

NO

Sanny:

Nope

any other hybrid nodda

will need to make a video reviewfor ya. so stand by later.

My honest answer to you, will be If you're planningto go out in total darkness and capture people even yourself viewing in arms length, it will not work at all. even if streetlamps are outside above you.

my oldsaying :

If no light no video, lighton an object video. but from other light sources. hope this helps out.
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I've been looking at hybrid cams from several manufacturers. Sony, Sanyo, DXG, SVP, DigiLife, and Aiptek.

Which models have LED lights for shooting in low-light?
I know that most hybrid cams are very poor in low light, so I assume using LEDs for light would make a BIG DIFFERENCE, right?

So far, I know of:

DigiLife DV1080HD
http://www.digilifeglobal.com/DV1080HD.htm

Sanyo Xacti VPC-100
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...i_sku=10629517

Has anyone used either of these hybrid cams with the LEDs?
Do you think having LEDs is far more important than having a 'night mode' or better quality sensor, etc?

The latest Aiptek AHD Z600 aka Aiptek HD GVS does not have LEDs, and is available for purchase here:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001GXR03U

The latest Sanyo Xacti VPC-HD800 does not have LEDs, and has info here:
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Sanyo-Xacti-VPC-HD800-HD-Digital-Video-Camera-GOLD_W0QQitemZ330282180872QQcmdZViewItemQQptZDigit al_Cameras?hash=item330282180872&_trksid=p3286 .c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205|66%3A2|65%3A12|39% 3A1|240%3A1318

I'm willing to shell out up to $400 for something that can look decent in a dark setting, but I don't think even an Xacti VPC-HD800 would beat out a cheap Aiptek with LEDs, right?

I cannot find any sample videos on Vimeo to showcase the effects of the LEDs... please help me out!

(any camera I purchase I will upload test videos in raw format for direct download & post on the board)
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Old Nov 21, 2008, 3:25 PM   #3
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You could fit an external LED video light. For exampel those from Camerabright.

http://www.camerabright.com/product.htm

Or you could probably find cheaper ones from SIMA on Ebay.
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Old Nov 21, 2008, 4:08 PM   #4
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http://vimeo.com/2309385

well I will work on the video but at the moment enjoy the clip soon. I again have clips but soon will do a fun one
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Old Nov 21, 2008, 4:16 PM   #5
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These LED addons look interesting - probably far more powerful than whatever a Sanyo or Aiptek can do. I wonder if it would make a noticeable difference.

Looking at fishy's video, the LEDs really help, but only for objects less than 3 feet away (or so it seems).

Would a Sanyo Xacti VPC-HD800 have better low light recording than an Aiptek with LEDs?

Or, would it be about the same?
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Old Nov 21, 2008, 5:02 PM   #6
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http://vimeo.com/433839sanyo hd 700

http://vimeo.com/457420sanyo hd 700

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtIvWfE3_qE

It was a fast clip. so like I said look later on for the review, need to get a story line go all out on this.
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http://vimeo.com/2311149

your quickreview enjoy showing the leds
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Old Nov 21, 2008, 8:39 PM   #8
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So, fishy:

Is it your opinion that LEDs on hybrid cams really do not make much difference at all?

I've seen the videos, but have not seen a sub-$200 cam with LEDs vs sony or sanyo with no LEDs

If LEDs make no difference, maybe it's best to go with A-HD, etc.
If LEDs really do make a difference, maybe it's better to go with a cheap cam with LEDs or attach external LED module to a high end hybrid cam like sony or xacti...

What does everyone think?
LEDs make any difference?
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The DXG has an LED light as well but it only brightens a few feet away as well so not very good use for dark situations.
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Old Nov 21, 2008, 10:04 PM   #10
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no matterwhat low budget cam you'll e the same exact results i demo'ed
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