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Old Mar 26, 2009, 8:49 PM   #11
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Sanyo Dual Camera Xacti FH1 1080P HD Camcorder - 16x Optical Zoom - Black - VPC-FH1BK - Order now, Currently scheduled to be available to ship by May 1

http://www.buy.com/prod/sanyo-dual-c...210790649.html

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Take stunning Full 1080p High Definition video at 60fps and amazing 8 megapixel digital photos.including 600fps slow motion mode.

HD video image resolution up to 1920 x 1080 and still image resolution up to 4000 x 3000
10x optical, 160x digital zoom
Face Chaser technology can detect up to 12 faces for photos and videos
High-speed sequential shooting: 12fps
3D DNR noise-reducing function for clearer, more professional-looking video
1/2.5"" CMOS image sensor
High still sensitivity up to 1600 ISO
3.0"" low-temperature polysilicon TFT color widescreen LCD display
Compatible with Xacti Library, for easy saving and access to photos and videos with just about any external hard drive
Uses SD/SDHC memory cards up to 32GB
Includes rechargeable Li-Ion (DB-L50) battery and charger

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Old Mar 26, 2009, 9:08 PM   #12
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The HD2000 has it too.
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Old Apr 1, 2009, 2:11 AM   #13
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the Sanyo Xacti VPC-FH1 has gone down to a little over $400 -

http://www.amazon.com/Sanyo-VPC-FH1-...097&sr=8-1

Probably the cheapest in it's class but I am interested to see if DXG or Aiptek has any plans on making a 1080P 60 fps camcorder anytime soon. They went from 720 to 1080P within a year, maybe a surprise this summer or winter perhaps? Love to get maximum HD performance at the least price possible.

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Old Apr 9, 2009, 2:23 AM   #14
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I thought Aiptek would from what I was told.

Samsung has new cameras, I Haven't checked if they have.
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Old Apr 9, 2009, 10:43 AM   #15
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I thought Aiptek would from what I was told.
Not at 1080P, Sanyo is the first one to do this.
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Old Apr 11, 2009, 11:22 AM   #16
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It shouldn't be too long away for Aiptek(or rather an OEM) to release a 1080p60p hybrid. If they are going to use the new Ambarella A5 platform. The new A5 platform has true 10MP CMOS sensor but "only" 1080p30p. So they are now working with Aptina Imaging, who has a new CMOS sensor, which does 1080(I'm not sure if it's full HD or anamorphic) in 60 frames per second.
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Old Apr 13, 2009, 8:20 PM   #17
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I thought Aiptek would from what I was told.
Not at 1080P, Sanyo is the first one to do this.
I imagine it will be 1440 version of 1080p.

I noticed the limitation on the A5, so makes me wonder. I thought this was a bit ahead of my approximation of their performance curve (unless they don't raise bit rates so much, but if it had similar quality to the 720p60 (not so crash) then that would be 12mb/s at 1080p60 fullhd, which is basically what they do now and 1080p part (1440) would be 9mb/s (720p60 sux's).

If you want descent consumer quality, most of these cameras don't qualify (through the codec technology used in these cameras is very efficient and no other implementation I know of comes close). Would it really harm these manufacturers if 720p60 and SD modes could average 12mb/s. I have 42 inch TV, and the results I AM SEEING, don't impress me, and people with really good vision probably can see at least twice as well as me (so even on 32 inch the mistakes are going to show a lot). these manufacturers must remember a lot of customers are not poor sighted technicians, engineers, incompetent support staff or of nationalities that are prone to poor eye sight. I would probably buy an African camera if if was done right for the right price, without other problems.
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What many don't realize -- relative to this 1080/60p topic -- is that the very low-cost camcorders really don't have anywhere close to a 1920 x 1080 native pixel matrix.

The manufacturers have long relied on pixel shifting and other tricks to create the illusion.
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What many don't realize -- relative to this 1080/60p topic -- is that the very low-cost camcorders really don't have anywhere close to a 1920 x 1080 native pixel matrix.

The manufacturers have long relied on pixel shifting and other tricks to create the illusion.
Also, what manydon't realize is that even with sophisticated special effects and image filters (like in high-end movies)... if there's no content worth watching, then is trash.. in HD or SD itis trash.
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"Content is KING."
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