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Old Apr 12, 2009, 6:58 PM   #1
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Hi!
I've opened this thread for the people looking to buy a magnetic wide angle lens for their Aiptek Action HD / AHD / Sanyo HD 700 and other similar hybrids. I've read on the forum that the best lens to go for is the Phoenix 0.45x lens, but the problem is that european citizens (like me) can't find it easily or can't find it at all.
After doing some research in online resellers, it seems the best way to go is through ebay, but ebay offers different models and I am not sure which one is crappy.

So, let's see the various models:

1) Phoenix M-power 0,45x wide angle. This is the best model, unfindable in Europe. Please notice how slim it is, and the straight edge that connects the top of the adapter to its base. Weight: 36g.
(Photo from http://members.cox.net/visorblue/images/Phoenix045x.jpg - I can't find the name of the user, sorry)



and this is the Phoenix box : http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2107/...9a0595.jpg?v=0



2) An M-Power 0,45x lens. This is the adapter Trevmar bought from an online reseller and that he reported us to be not good. Notice the rounded edge and the macro lens included under the wide angle lens.


3) 0,45x wide lens. This is an other "anonymous" adapter from ebay (USA), it includes a macro lens but it seems different from the 2nd model listed



4) Pro-Tama wide angle. Again, an other model with macro lens from ebay (Hong Kong)


5) Focus Digital M-Power 0,45x Wide angle. This is from a Hong Kong ebay seller. This lens actually looks like the Phoenix, but the description says it weights 40g (vs 36g of the Phoenix). Considering weight and origin (Hong Kong), I am not sure if it is a rebranded Phonix or a "chinese copy".


6) Fox M-Power 0,45x wide angle lens. This is an other lens with macro you can find on ebay, through a UK (or Poland?) seller. The user *derxxsfilmer* reported us in the Hd700 thread that this is a good lens and he kindly posted some pictures here http://www.stevesforums.com/forums/a....php?id=118231 and here http://forums.steves-digicams.com/fo....php?id=121695
As you can see, this adapter has rounded edges, macro lens and a serial number printed on it, so it's totally different from the Phoenix. The seller warns about possible vignetting problems.

Sample picture of the Fox (from ebay seller website)


7) Focus Optics Digital M-Power. This is a product from an ebayHong Kong seller. On its website there is a photo sample. The lens looks similar to the Fox and to Trevmar's one. The seller warns about possible vignetting problems.


CONCLUSIONS:
Well, I can't really tell the conclusions, since I don't know myself which is the best to choose (besides the Phoenix) and I haven't personally tried the lenses. So, I would like to ask you guys if you have any experience with the models listed here, besides the ones already explained (the Fox, Trevmar's lens). All the adapters listed cost about 25-30‚ and can be shipped to Europe. I think I'll go for the Fox, even though the macro lens adds some weight and I honestly dont know if it is as good as the Phoenix or maybe better. Besides, does the macro lens work good?
Any suggestion is appreciated

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I havent posted the ebay seller for each lens, because I am not sure if it s against forum rules, anyway you can find the adapters easily in ebay by doing a worldwide research using "magnetic wide angle" as keywords.

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- Added an other lens.
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Old Apr 15, 2009, 9:15 AM   #2
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I've just ordered the Fox wide angle (product number 6 in the list above). I'll tell you if it is any good as soon as it arrives.
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Old May 9, 2009, 11:25 AM   #3
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Guys, the lens has just arrived. I'll post some photos in a few days
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Old May 9, 2009, 12:09 PM   #4
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lookingfoward to seeigsome pics but I am sure you'll find out that there are issues with the cam when they altered its angle from a zero optical to 1.4 due to flaring
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Old May 16, 2009, 5:13 PM   #5
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Sorry for the long wait. Here you are the Fox M-Power 0.45x magnetic wide angle.
This is the package I received: lens, small cord to secure the lens, 2 magnetic rings (same size), small pouch, one page instructions. Price: about 25€ shipping included.
http://www.box.net/shared/zmiiqm157j


This is the lens, in wide-angle configuration:
http://www.box.net/shared/yayqszvbns


And here the top lens separated by the macro one
http://www.box.net/shared/q53k1q8eup

Let's start with the tests. The camera I used is the Aiptek Action HD.

WITHOUT WIDE ANGLE
http://www.box.net/shared/t10c6ikxgk

WITH WIDE ANGLE
http://www.box.net/shared/sln32xk66s

WITHOUT WIDE ANGLE
http://www.box.net/shared/vl0j2ej9as

WITH WIDE ANGLE
http://www.box.net/shared/p5os5myaiq

WITHOUT WIDE ANGLE
http://www.box.net/shared/h5umu2vj3c

WITH WIDE ANGLE
http://www.box.net/shared/oayc33nbdu

An other photo with wide angle:
http://www.box.net/shared/qaed9fzavs

Using the macro lens adapter only (with Macro mode on the camera):
http://www.box.net/shared/2r80x3mqfj

CONCLUSIONS:
As you can see from the pictures, the Fox wide angle does its job, even though there is some vignetting on the left edge, especially at the bottom. Anyway, I think this is a minor problem, considering the small price I payed. The macro lens lets you even go further than the Action Hd macro mode, so you can take pictures even at 1 cm from the subject; be aware that the focus point is rather small, as you can see in the watch picture. About the the adapter stability, id est the magnetic attachment, I can say that it isn't very strong, if u do quick movements with the camera you'll probably lose it, however I had no problems when walking with the camera in my hand.
So, if you're dubious which wide angle adapter to buy, I think the Fox is a good one, considering the price.

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Images links of the previous post are now working, sorry for any inconvenience
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Old May 21, 2009, 3:00 AM   #7
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Thanks lots for the trouble you went to, very informative.
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Old Jun 17, 2009, 4:22 PM   #8
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Could anyone post a link to either the Pheonix or the Fox lens? I can't seem to find them on ebay.
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Old Jun 17, 2009, 4:30 PM   #9
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what I found in a minute, sorry

http://www.amazon.com/Phoenix-M-Powe.../dp/B000Q8Q000
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hmm http://www.pricescan.com/item.asp?ca...&itemno=495826

ebay lenses unsure of makes wide angle magnetic lens
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Could anyone post a link to either the Pheonix or the Fox lens? I can't seem to find them on ebay.
Try asking this seller if he can provide you a Fox lens http://stores.shop.ebay.it/Mikes-Camera-Accessories
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