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Old May 18, 2009, 3:17 AM   #1
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Default Hybrid HD video cam with AV-IN and Motion Detection?

(i have posted this in the 'What camera to buy?' forum aswell, not realising this section existed! - just requesting a moderator delete the other post - thanks!)

Hey guys new to the forum here so first a quick hello
Basically Im curious if anyone knows if one of these exist? It needs to be HD aswell as 32GB+ in external mem and MUST have AV IN and Motion Detection.. The ones that I have found only have 1 or the other.. any ideas?

Heres a link to one of them which has AV IN -
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/1080P-HD-VIDEO-CAMERA-CAMCORDER-HELMET-CAM-DVD-RECORDER_W0QQitemZ160334016787QQcmdZViewItemQQptZA U_Digital_Video_Cameras?hash=item160334016787&_trk sid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A1|39%3A1|24 0%3A1308|301%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A50


And this link is for one with Motion Detection -
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/SUPER-9in1-11MP-DIGITAL-VIDEO-CAMERA-CAMCORDER-SONY-CCD_W0QQitemZ160335148798QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Dig ital_Video_Cameras?hash=item160335148798&_trksid=p 3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A1|39%3A1|240%3A1 308|301%3A0|293%3A1|294%3A50


Surely there must be one that exists out there, but from the extensive research I have done I am yet to find one!
Any help would be great!
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Old May 18, 2009, 7:48 AM   #2
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(i have posted this in the 'What camera to buy?' forum aswell, not realising this section existed! - just requesting a moderator delete the other post - thanks!)
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Old May 18, 2009, 7:58 AM   #3
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Thanks Jim, did not realise this part of the forum existed.
Does anyone have any idea if one exists or are you as stumped as me. Ive done over 8 hours of research today with no luck. :/
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Another 6hrs today! And still nothing! Surely someone must have heard of one??
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Old May 19, 2009, 10:39 AM   #5
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Another 6hrs today! And still nothing! Surely someone must have heard of one??
Hi Joshstar,

I don't think people are deliberately avoiding or don't want to answer your question.
I personally haven't seen or heard of such a hybrid. And you say, that you have done extensive research on it and haven't found anything. That must tell you that such a device probably don't exist. I have, like you seen hybrids, have one or the other function, but not both function in one hybrid camera. Another thing is the AV-in on these hybrids are not that great either. It's not that you have 720p or even D1 resolution on the AV-in. Those Aiptek's(and some other brands) I've seen only have VGA or 320x240 resolution.
I've got one suggestion. You could search through the "Hybrid Camera List" sticky thread. I know that the list contains info on which camera has motion detection. So find out which camera has an "x"(motion detection) marked, and try googling more info on each hybrid camera. Because the list doesn't mention if a hybrid camera has AV-in or not. So this you have to google. I know this is a lot of work, and I do hope you find what you seek.
Also PM the "King of hybrids" as I've crowned Fishycomics:-). He knows quite a lot about hybrid cameras imo.

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Thanks very much for the reply, I have briefly gone through that list and will do some more this afternoon. A hybrid with an AV INPUT of VGA or 320x240 would be next to useless. I believe the model listed below inputs at 720x480 @ 30 fps. This is equivelent to say a normal SD miniDV type camera correct?

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/1080P-HD-VIDE...3%3A1|294%3A50
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Thanks very much for the reply, I have briefly gone through that list and will do some more this afternoon. A hybrid with an AV INPUT of VGA or 320x240 would be next to useless. I believe the model listed below inputs at 720x480 @ 30 fps. This is equivelent to say a normal SD miniDV type camera correct?

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/1080P-HD-VIDEO-CAMERA-CAMCORDER-HELMET-CAM-DVD-RECORDER_W0QQitemZ160334016787QQcmdZViewItemQQptZA U_Digital_Video_Cameras?hash=item160334016787&_trk sid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A1|39%3A1|24 0%3A1308|301%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A50

Hehehe! I remember, we discussed this exact model when it first came out last year. It was called the Digilife DDV-1080HD. The one you have found doesn't appear to be a Digilife as it's not mention anywhere. It does however keep the ddv-1080hd model name. Anyway it's an exact clone or rebrand. I think the general impression(back then) of the video quality in daylight was quite good. I'll link the discussion thread below.

http://forums.steves-digicams.com/hy...dv-1080hd.html


I also found Fishy's video review of this hybrid camera. I didn't even know he had done this. So he'd be the man you'd want to direct your question to, regarding this camera.

http://www.vimeo.com/1535618
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The Hybrid List specifies both A/V-in and Motion Detection. The keys are and (VI) (x), and these cameras have both:

Aiptek: DV5100B
Digilife: DDV-960, DDV-990, DDV-5120A, DDV-5110B, DDV-992, DDV-7110
Cool Life: DDV-6300
Rhein: DV5030M, DV7030C, V7030CG

None of these cameras are HD.

There may be some that are also HD, but the manufacturers have an annoying habit of not mentioning the more basic features on the fancier cameras. So you may have to work through the cameras with HD and see if any of them mention those features.

While I think a/v-in and motion detection are excellent features, and as I get rid of older cameras I make sure I keep one that can do these things, I have to add that in real life I just don't use motion detection at all. And I rarely use a/v-in. So if these features are in the "nice to have" classification rather than the reason for buying a given camera, I wouldn't let them influence the decision much.

I have used the a/v-in feature both for recording content off the tv, a vcr, and a handi-cam. In all cases the resolution, detail etc. were excellent - much better than the camera could do using its own sensor system. So as implemented on the Digilife models, I'd say the a/v-in works great.
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Thanks so much for all the help. Ive settled on a Phisung HDV782 - this model has motion detection, so I'm going to run with that and as for my button cam I'm just going to get a small DVR to plug into. Basically I run a website and youtube channel that focuses on public pranks (immature I know but its starting to pay the bills). Hence the reason why I needed something for my button cams and hidden cams. Thanks for your help though guys I appreciate it!!
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