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Old Aug 22, 2009, 6:41 PM   #1
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Default Sanyo Xacti VPC-CG10 - Best DUAL up to 200$ ?

Hey, I am interested in another Dual cam, I saw fishycomics videos on his youtube channel and the GVS is really something else...

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For someone looking for great still shots as well as good video, is this Xacti better ? Where can I find Xacti still shots ?


I don't really care about resolution.. I just need 60fps video for biomechanical analysis and great still shots at the same device.

What will it be ? remember, up to 200$

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Old Aug 22, 2009, 7:43 PM   #2
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I see the black CG10 listed for less than $175 on amazon, and the pink one for like $174
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001Q3M8S2

the thing is, you can find images and videos online of really high quality from this camera, and at the same time you will find really crummy videos and pictures taken with the same device.
So what I am trying to say is: it comes down to the user.

Electronics are fairly advanced these days, but you must know exactly what you want to shoot and prepare for it.

By the way, the Cg10 records 30fps at 720P maximum.
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Old Aug 22, 2009, 9:27 PM   #3
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I have to agree with subc. In the end I have found that you really have to try these out for yourself. I have found devices that were highly praised didn't live up to my expectations and other devices I was put off from initially. ended up being much better than I was led to believe.

As the owner of both Sanyo and Aiptek camcorders I would have to give the edge to the Sanyos for still images. The GVS is capable of some stunning photos in the right conditions but I find it seems to use too low a shutter speed resulting in blurred images much more frequently than the Sanyos if lighting conditions are not optimal. I also find the Sanyos tend to have nicer color whereas the Aiptek can often be a little dull at times.

subc, the CDG10 does have a 640x480/60fps mode ,which may be sufficient since he does say he doesn't care about the resolution.

Silencer23, you say this is for biomechanical analysis. Does this involve low light conditions? The reason I say this, is that neither device is going to be great in low light. For your budget though, these two are probably the best you are going to get although you may want to look into regular digital cameras as well seeing as you don't need HD. Of course you won't get 60fps in this price range and even those that supposedly do have this like the Panasonics (which are MUCH more expensive anyway) turn out to be 30fps in disguise.
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Oh!, I guess I did not fully look the specs on the CG10 rgvcam. 720P appears to be the norm these days! haha (I still shoot 640x480 :P )
Thanks for the correction.
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Old Aug 23, 2009, 3:39 AM   #5
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Thank you both !
Yea, I understand what you say ...All the shooting is going to be on bright daylight by the way.. Athletics stadium.

So if you were to recommend a good 30fps point and shoot device at the same budget, what would it be ? (A Casio ? )
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Old Aug 23, 2009, 6:58 AM   #6
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Siliencer.

1. what other cam you own

2 you mention casio but no model

3 will yoyu be able to edit h264 files with you rcomputer get test sample

I own a number of cams. and I pay darely for them with my own personal $$ , while Stevesdigicams is just a site to me, thy offer me no beta-testing or help. I concider the Hybrid section seperate from theem.

We are a Low budget Pc hybrid economy cam forum

the casio:

Limited in video of 10 minutes of filming. low level very Grainy, may be corrected if manual settings are chosen, ccd sensor always showing a star trek beam on levels of light. 50/50 shots some will be great some will be alright, never perfect. no interpolations software enhancement here the models I have are the casio exslim v7 Japan casio exslim ex-z77 repaired

The sanyo xacti hd700:

This Model is a 7 meg no interpolated software enhancements i believe.
unlimited video recording file,. the pics are from various sizes and has a 16:9 ratio one, wider angle and minimum difference from phot, orvideo lens. the Jello/ rolling shutter is very limited, and no focus hunting. you have hot keys, many manual features except sharpness control. with a face detection only for stills, the ccd sensor will have star trek beam on any pic/vid in levels of lighting, while the HD800 will now have face detection on both vid and pic, and possably dual recording allowing a snapshot during a video.

the Aiptek GVS:

This is a INTERPOLATED CAM of internal setting s for up to 12 megapixals, while in a default of 5 mb Interpolationat the Moment has not been set for the USA version, and is set on the Chinavisons version, go figure.

Unlimited filming for files, no manual features, hot keys, a very basic point-n-shoot model with a AF lock key the only benifet the model has would be it's Moneral Ext l/4 mic port. and dual record mode.

The cam has been improved with the Autofocus hunt, low levels Hunting is still present, while a AF lock will limit this. The Jello/ rolling shutte has been limited greatly as well.

Snapshots/video shutter. only 2, or 3 speeds no more only control of the F- stop. will be switching to a nightshot mode, no locking the F-Stop.
nightshot mode require you to use a tripod for smoother shooting.
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If you Ask me about a cam and you are placing a Limit of $200.00 .

Instore:

JAzz Elite hdv 178/188 / Insignia models

Aiptek Action HD 1080P

sanyo HD100

Rca small wonder

Flip mino

DXG 567v

Online:

Mustek, DXG, SVP, Digilife , etc the list will go on and on and on

Not many stores today will carry the models we're looking for.

A new model will arrive soon, called the kodak Z18, the z16 is out.

If one cannot test the model in hand, the next bestthing to do is research, and why you're here, look at the samples , ask for DL clip.............


It's a tough call. sanyo morefeatures hd720p, GVs Hd1080p less features,and now casio no model posted LOL

sanyo editing harder gvs editing easier




My 2 cents.... hope i made sense thanks

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Old Aug 23, 2009, 6:35 PM   #7
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THANKS !
What if I told you to narrow down your recommendations to a True 60fps daylight shooter, with a reasonable Still option + Tripod ? What would you grab personally for up to 200 ?
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I recommend research. samples, and decesions.

I do not take responsabilities for actions.

Since I own the Aiptek action HD GVS . I lean to that.

10 days to holloween. silvershamrocks, had to say that the kodak Z18 will be out but not optical zoom.

after tax shipping over 2 bills enjoy.
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Teaching me how to fish, huh
That's probably the best tip.

Will come back soon after I researched the options you presented.
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