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Old Nov 8, 2009, 11:39 AM   #51
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Sorry, you're right.

I did a couple of new videos with the zi8 and I can say a full sized camcorder could have done one, but could not have done the other.

I can't find the DXG locally, I even called DXG directly to find out what retailer had them in stock. You would think someone in the Dallas/Ft worth area would have them but I did look.

I did not test the GVS, I tested the Action-Hd. The IQ on the A-HD was not as good as the zi8. It wasn't even close. By IQ I mean dynamic range.

The auto white balance on the zi8 works very very well. I recorded a video even under florescent and you can see the results here. No processing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9TURVKtqNE
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Old Nov 8, 2009, 6:43 PM   #52
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I could not have done that video with a full sized camcorder, it would be too obvious. I just whipped out my camera phone looking thing (zi8) and shot it. There is something to be said for that.

The good news is, these little devices are very capable now and some have said at the upper range, even rival tape. The ones most mentioned are the Canon HF models.
Check out this video and watch it all the way through. It's done with the hf100 and $400-$500 new on ebay. Pretty impressive for the money.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1N6pPZm3oKY
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Old Nov 8, 2009, 9:24 PM   #53
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cant really see the quality on youtube with their high compressed videos
u better take a look on vimeo wish has way better compression and most of all, better videos.
the hf100 seems good but go check the HV20 hv30 or the latest hv40, i think its even better. but of course they all have its price and cant really be compared to our phone cams lol

on ebay ? hmm i would never buy a cam on ebay, thats for sure.
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What you can see though is the latitude, O.I.S. and smoothness of zoom.

Of course there are better but where are the price performance cameras? The DXG might be one of them at 200.00 for 400.00 you get 200.00 more in IQ.

Actually, I think you need both.
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Old Nov 8, 2009, 11:51 PM   #55
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yes i can see its great, canon is like god now on the HD cams, and dslr, look at those shots from 5D and 7D, ... its really amazing.
so crisp, crystal clear + u can play with DOF with any lens u want.
if i had the money i would certainly think about a 5D, even if it would be only for video, just look at these vids http://vimeo.com/videos/search:7d/so...rmat:thumbnail , they are better than most hd cams.

i see it like a little revolution, and it just started, cant imagine what the future will be
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Old Nov 9, 2009, 5:44 AM   #56
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Check out this one. Leica glass, O.I.S. 720p 25mm-300mm optical zoom fits in your pocket and around $200 new at Costsco. The downside is a 3.3 lens and it's actully 30fps not 60. It's very close though.

http://vimeo.com/4500330



The Panasonic Lumix ZS3 aka TZ7 inherits the same, nice 720p HD movie mode as its predecessor plus a couple of new things (such as AVCHD Lite and stereo sound recording). The Lumix ZS3 can record 720p HD (1280 X 720) movies at 30 FPS with stereo sound until your memory card fills up. On paper, Panasonic mentions something about ’60 FPS’ but to clear up the confusion, the camera’s sensor records at 30 FPS (25 FPS for PAL video) and doubles the frame rate when playing videos. So the native output of the sensor is actually just 30 FPS, with double the FPS rate in playback to give the illusion of “60 FPS”.

Other than the 720p resolution (1280 x 720), there are several other recording sizes available, including WVGA (848 x 480), VGA (640 x 480) or QVGA (320 x 240), all at 30 FPS. The camera also has three “Recording quality” settings for overall movie quality (both video and audio): Super High (17 Mbps), High (13 Mbps) and Low (9 Mbps) quality.

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Old Nov 10, 2009, 7:19 AM   #57
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Anyone noticed the zi8 going dark at 720/60 indoors and not outdoors? 1080 does not do this.
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Anyone noticed the zi8 going dark at 720/60 indoors and not outdoors? 1080 does not do this.
With the Zi8 firmware 1.06, there is a trick to brighten up the video recording in low light. Zoom in past halfway, and then zoom out again. This works in WVGA, 720P, and 720P-60fps, but not 1080P.
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Anyone noticed the zi8 going dark at 720/60 indoors and not outdoors? 1080 does not do this.

I noticed the stills brighten up the Most. hd1080p is peaked, and 720/Wvga as stated allow the zoom to fool the shutter.
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Anyone seen any video tutorials for the Arcsoft media editor?
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