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Old Mar 10, 2010, 9:00 AM   #1
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Default Aiptek A-HD+ and Sony Vegas Pro 9 Render Settings

Hello

i found this forum looking for information about my new camera the aiptek a-hd+ 1080, but i couldnt find anyone using it with Sony Vegas Pro 9

the camera already outputs a .mov files in h.264 codec, but in Sony Vegas Pro 9 i couldnt find any way to render it as mov in h.264 codec theres only an option for h.263 and h.262

rendering in the same format as the original ensures no loss of quality but i cant find a way to do that

so i wanted to see how many people here use Sony vegas with this camera and what are your best render settings for it?

thnx a lot!
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I found using Vegas 8 no soundduring preview, annoying, I went with Magix.
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Old Mar 11, 2010, 8:36 AM   #3
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i dont have that problem

i have audio and everything is ok

but i do have one problem...

when i pause the video inside Sony Vegas i see the image with ghost images...

like several frames are showing at the same time...

the only way i founf to fix that was to Undersample the video to half so that it would be in 30fps but the video shows like not fluid...

has anyone edited videos from an aiptek on Sony Vegas?

i would really need some help
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There's no way to do it the way you want.

Very few editors can natively edit H.264 wrapped in .MOV.

So if you're wanting to "changes-only render" your timeline, you're out-of-luck.

But you can convert your H.264 .MOV clips to an intermediate I-frame format such as Cineform and then bring those converted clips into Vegas for editing.

Cineform's NeoScene costs $129. Here:

http://www.cineform.com/neoscene/

It's a very decent codec and it basically preserves 99.5% of the original quality and then allows you to edit and edit and edit without any further quality loss because it is a "lossless" codec.
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would that be * , or 9, I was referring to 8 lol
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im using sony vegas pro 9

i have no problem with sound

but as i said before i do have a problem with the 720p60fps footage...

each frame appears like several frames superimposed i've searched about it and couldn't find anything like it...

anyone else had this problem?
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You're just not going to get it to do what you want.

Sony has not designed Vegas to be a native Quicktime editor.

You'll need a native Quicktime editor to do what you want to do.

Otherwise, convert to an intermediate format.

Your mistake is that you want to do with H.264 .MOV files what you probably did with DV .avi files. It won't work that way. Why? Because H.264 .MOV files are so-called "long GOP" structured files. In other words, the structure of long GOP (Group of Pictures) files is completely different than I-Frame file types.

With DV .avi files, each frame is independent of the other frames in the sequence. No so with long GOP files. Long GOP files are structured so that each frame is *NOT* independent! Instead, you have an entire "Group of Pictures" or frames and that means editing long GOP directly is going to be difficult. You have to have an editor that can do that.
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By the way, this is precisely what the low-cost Apple NLEs (iMovie/Final Cut Express) do.

They feature the Apple Intermediate Codec (AIC). Built in. No need to purchase anything.
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By the way, this is precisely what the low-cost Apple NLEs (iMovie/Final Cut Express) do.

They feature the Apple Intermediate Codec (AIC). Built in. No need to purchase anything.
and what about a windows app that can edit MOV files natively?

what app do you guys use to correctly edit the files that come out of this camera?
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As I am on a Older system so I can only say .mov for me are 3rd party. while windows Moviemaker caters to a pc filed, not a mac field.
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