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Old Aug 25, 2010, 12:03 PM   #1
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Default Will Soon Review The New Samson Zoom H1 Audio Recorder

Samson's forthcoming audio recorder... the "Zoom H1"... could make it possible to record extremely good audio in connection with any camcorder, including camcorders that don't feature external microphone inputs.

http://www.samsontech.com/products/p...2053&brandID=4



I'll tell you why I think this new Samson recorder is going to be great.

First, the specifications are impressive.
  1. Stereo X/Y mic configuration captures perfect stereo images
  2. Same frequency and SPL handling as popular Zoom H2
  3. Records Broadcast WAV (BWF) at 96kHz/48kHz/44.1kHz at 16-bit or 24-bit
  4. Records MP3 from 48 to 320kbps for maximum recording time
  5. Hi-Speed USB 2.0 port
  6. Built-in reference speaker
  7. Includes 2GB microSD card and one AA battery
  8. One AA size battery allows 10 hours operation
  9. Accommodates up to 32GB microSDHC memory cards
  10. Track marker function
  11. Low cut filter
  12. Built-in tripod mount
  13. 1/8" external mic input
  14. Stereo 1/8" line output
  15. Auto record level
  16. Optional accessory package (APH-1) includes windscreen, AC adapter (USB type), USB cable, adjustable tripod stand, padded-shell case and mic clip adapter

Most of the hybrid camcorders feature quite acceptable video quality, but their audio recording capability is often crippled. Even the models with external microphone inputs sometimes lack the internal "chops" to record high-quality audio. These Samson audio recorders will change the game.

Why?

Because they're going to be reasonably priced.

I will be pre-ordering one immediately.

As soon as it arrives, I'll test it and I'll synch the audio I record using the Samson H1 device with video recorded by my hybrid camcorders and I'll post the results.

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Old Sep 28, 2010, 10:46 PM   #2
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Finally got this as this model has been *delayed* to almost every shipper for the past few weeks.

Disappointed... because there's no "conference" or "lecture" recording mode as there is with my beloved Olympus DS-40.

Sure... the Samson Zoom H1 features .wav recording, 24-bit recording, but even when I set the recording input volume at the highest-possible setting (100), I still can't get the volume I was expecting.

The Olympus DS-40, meanwhile, features a marvelous "conference" recording mode that makes the microphone go *extra* sensitive for picking up all sound in a room.

I'm returning the Samson Zoom H1.

I'll be buying a second Olympus.

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One other criticism of the Samson Zoom H1.

The battery cover and the cover for the memory card seem exceptionally flimsy.

In fact, the build-quality in general seems flimsy.

I've ordered a new Olympus DM-420 to go with my Olympus DS-40.
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Old Sep 29, 2010, 1:23 PM   #4
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Thanks for your insight
I have lost interest in the H1, primarily because of the way it is marketed.
I will stick with my tiny Yamaha Pockettrak G2's

http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/orei...2g-review.html
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Old Sep 29, 2010, 1:50 PM   #5
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When I ordered the Samson Zoom H1, I thought the pictures of the unit looked pretty cool.

But pictures can be deceiving.

In my hands, the unit feels more like a "toy" than a well-built electronic device.

In contrast, my Olympus recorders feel more substantial.

I forgot to clarify that in addition to the "conference" recording mode, the Olympus recorders also have an amazing "lecture" recording mode that makes the microphone go *super* sensitive... to the point where it can hear a pin drop.

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I'm going to side with Private Idaho on this one.. the reason being that I also have an Olympus DS-40 that I bought in 2008.
I've used it for many hours to record and playback podcasts, sound effects, also used it along with a camera for clear audio recordings.. and what I am most amazed is.. the battery meter still shows full! It's the original pack of batteries that came with the device, and I have not changed them so far :-D

The new model does look more professional, but my DS-40 doesn't want to die, so why change it.
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Old Sep 30, 2010, 11:20 AM   #7
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My employer just bought a Sony ICD-PX820.

It's good, but not as good as my Olympus recorders.

Not as many options and the sound quality seems better with the Olympus to my ears.

As far as I'm concerned, the Olympus recorders are the best.

But I haven't tested the Yamaha yet.
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This "conference" recording mode of the Olympus recorders is quite interesting.

It seems to make the built-in microphone functions much like a PZM (pressure-zone-microphone).

An example of a PZM microphone is the Crown "Sound Grabber II."



Crown's microphones have been transferred by the corporate owner, Harman, under the AKG umbrella. So I wouldn't be surprised if the "Sound Grabber II" microphones will eventually come in packaging re-labeled as AKG.

Anyway, here's the Sound Grabber II Web page:

http://www.akg.com/site/products/pow...nguage,EN.html

This type of microphone actually makes use of any rigid, flat surface -- a table, a floor, a sheet of plexiglass. You just set the microphone and its detachable plastic paddle onto any flat, rigid surface and the sound pickup will get everything in the room.

Well, the Olympus recorders -- with their "lecture" setting -- seem to have the same capability... the ability to grab everything in the room.
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Olympus models:

http://www.olympusamerica.com/cpg_se...?section=music

http://www.olympusamerica.com/cpg_se...sp?section=pcm

The newest models... not yet shipping... are going to feature built-in USB plugs:

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