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Old Sep 1, 2010, 2:42 PM   #1
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Default APPLE Unveils 720p Front/Back Video iPod "TOUCH": Holy Cow!

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http://www.apple.com/ipodtouch/specs.html

Features:

http://www.apple.com/ipodtouch/features/



I think I'll be getting this for sure.
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Old Sep 1, 2010, 10:45 PM   #2
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Interesting. This item shoots in three (3) video formats:

TV and video
  1. H.264 video up to 720p, 30 frames per second, Main Profile level 3.1 with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps, 48kHz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4, and .mov file formats
  2. MPEG-4 video, up to 2.5 Mbps, 640 by 480 pixels, 30 frames per second, Simple Profile with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps per channel, 48kHz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4, and .mov file formats
  3. Motion JPEG (M-JPEG) up to 35 Mbps, 1280 by 720 pixels, 30 frames per second, audio in ulaw, PCM stereo audio in .avi file format
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i think that one day, there will be a gadget that does everything lol
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Interesting. This item shoots in three (3) video formats:

TV and video
  1. H.264 video up to 720p, 30 frames per second, Main Profile level 3.1 with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps, 48kHz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4, and .mov file formats
  2. MPEG-4 video, up to 2.5 Mbps, 640 by 480 pixels, 30 frames per second, Simple Profile with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps per channel, 48kHz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4, and .mov file formats
  3. Motion JPEG (M-JPEG) up to 35 Mbps, 1280 by 720 pixels, 30 frames per second, audio in ulaw, PCM stereo audio in .avi file format
Actually, that's not accurate. These are the video formats that the new iPod Touch supports for playback (i.e. stored/streamed files).

Nice though this new model is, I do wonder why on earth it's not got the same 5mp stills capability of the iPhone4 - 960x720 is the max photo resolution
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You may be correct. Perhaps those numbers are only for *playback* and not *recording.* If so, then my mistake.

If you are correct, then I would wonder why APPLE would make provision for *playback* -- not *recording* of -- 1280 x 720 resolution M-JPEG .avi format files with a data rate up to 35 Mbps. Would the the purpose of that be to allow the iPod "TOUCH" to play files from digital cameras, perhaps?

Puzzling.

Here is another specifications page bit of information:

Cameras, photos, and video
  1. Video recording, HD (720p) up to 30 frames per second with audio; still photos (960 x 720) with back camera
  2. VGA-quality photos and video up to 30 frames per second with the front camera
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The APPLE iPhone 4's 5-megapixel camera takes 2592 x 1936 resolution photos.

Much higher resolution than the new APPLE iPod "TOUCH" 960 x 720 still photo resolution.

I wonder if APPLE chose to do that because the iPod "TOUCH" photos might be sent over public WiFi networks where they don't want large resolution photos consuming bandwidth?? Maybe?

I don't know.

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As I said in my other thread, it's an odd size that doesn't even match the display or iFrame format. Perhaps it's a mistake in their specs? I mean why 960x720 and not 1280x720.

I doubt it has anything to do with Wifi bandwidth. I am sure the lack of proper photograph ability is to prevent it competing too closely with the iPhone.
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Hmmmm.

I've been reading elsewhere on the Web that the reason for the odd 960 x 720 photo format is due to APPLE's desire to keep the price low enough for the product to be competitive.

But that is strange.

I'm thinking now that maybe I'll just keep using my Kodak Zi8s for now. I'm in no hurry to upgrade.
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I just opened a 960 x 720 frame in my image editing software and it's a rectangle that appears to be almost "square."

Weird!
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OK... I think the following Adobe After Effects Web page might explain it:

http://livedocs.adobe.com/en_US/Afte...290f-7ffd.html

Note the reference -- near the bottom of the Web page -- to the "HDV 1080/DVCPRO HD 720 (After Effects), HD Anamorphic 1080 (Adobe Premiere Pro)" column.

This indicates that when the PIXEL ASPECT RATIO is 1.33, -- then -- the 960 x 720 frame size expands to create a 16:9 aspect ratio image... much in the same way that a 1440 x 1080 (HDV and early AVCHD) video expanded to be 16:9 on HD television screens.

So... maybe... the pixel aspect ratio of the photo camera built-in to the new APPLE iPod "TOUCH" is 1.33.
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