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View Poll Results: Are you interested in going 4k, and how much are you prepared to pay?:
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I am willing to pay more than $500 for a 4k ultrahd hybrid camera. 1 50.00%
I am willing to pay $300-$500 for a 4k ultrahd hybrid camera. 0 0%
I am willing to pay less $300 for a 4k ultrahd hybrid camera, you stooges. 1 50.00%
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I am willing to pay less than $2000 for a 4k ultrahd TV, you stooges. 0 0%
I am willing to pay more than $1000 for a 4k ultrahd monitor or 27-32 inch TV set. 1 50.00%
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Old Nov 30, 2012, 11:12 PM   #51
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Fishy, look at some of the sample shots in the red user forum link above, to see how much better 4k redray can be compared to 1080p. Look at the windows at the bottom.

http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthr...505&viewfull=1

By reports, the 4k screens are pretty impressive over the fullhd ones.

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Old Nov 30, 2012, 11:58 PM   #52
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OK, I've set up a thread poll, don't be shy, fill it in. I've put my vote in on what I am willing to pay with some arm twisting, for the right thing. Have fun.

I am wondering how much are you guys out there prepared to pay for a 4k/ultra HD monitor or TV, and small hybrid camera? Also, do you intend to go to 4k or stick with HD/SD resolutions? (so we can see how much interested people are willing to pay).

I'm prepared to pay $2k for the right TV with no arm twisting, $1k for a monitor, up to $500-600 for the camera. They are worth more to me though, I have professional use for the TV/monitor, and would just have one of them 4k to start with.

Now, I wish I could open the poll up to general internet traffic coming off Google searches, which should be possible with cookie and IP address tracking, but there are no options. This would give the general public a say.

In case any of the people coming off google are wondering what a hybrid is, it is a small camera, ussually held like a gun with camera in the front or phone, that is meant for video but often also a still camera and audio recorder etc. Sometimes they are shaped like a small cheap camcorder. They are often less than $300 sometimes more, often much less.

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Old Dec 11, 2012, 6:07 AM   #53
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OK, for any readers, there is going to be a slow down here. Feel free to contribute relevant information you find yourselves. It looks like I have a heart condition that has been affecting me in the last two to three weeks. The good hews is that I have managed to overcome one of my other conditions that badly affects the others, and my health otherwise has improved 10 years. So, more capable on one hand, less so on the other.

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A thought. From information years ago, I thought that the Panasonic GH2 was 4k+ p50/60 sensor read internally. However, maybe it was downscaled binned fullhd p50/60. Vitally of the Gh2 hack says there is not it is set, but he seems to be just concentrating on adjusting the firmware, it likely would be deeper than settings. That at 4k would have been massive.

Just a trivial thought.

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Chest condition under control, anybody find anything .
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Old Dec 27, 2012, 9:13 AM   #55
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We have new friends:

http://www.ultrahdtv.net/

Though they seem to have missed the cheap manufacturers above.

Now, LG is introducing multiple different sizes, which would have multiple different prices. They also manufacture for other companies. Unless they ant to compete with cheap companies I don't think we will get anything flash soon. However, I here they manufacture for hisense, don't know if it is true, or if hi sense manufactures for them.

http://www.engadget.com/2012/12/26/l...izes-high-res/

55, 65 and 84 inch sets and 30 4k inch computer monitor.


Here it mentions Changhong, who made my excellent old panel, is also aiming for 4k next year.

http://www.cnet.com.au/ces-2013-oled...-339342903.htm

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Looks like Innolux has an igzo display tech license from Sharp and AU Optronics might get one. While this might be just to second source manufacture for Apple, maybe we might get a wider spread of 4k monitor panels. IGZO will helpfully be great, whatever viewsonic is using on their 4k monitor is reportedly great.

http://www.ipodnn.com/articles/12/12...cs.to.do.igzo/

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Old Jan 2, 2013, 2:23 AM   #56
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CES next week, new 4k info, Cha, cha, cha.

http://www.cesweb.org/

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http://www.engadget.com/2012/12/21/n...-10-bit-video/
http://www.engadget.com/2012/12/27/w...4k-tvs-at-ces/

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Old Jan 5, 2013, 7:59 AM   #57
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On Viewsonic 32 and 84 inch (digital signage touch model) 4k displays:

http://www.ultrahdtv.net/viewsonic-t...s-at-ces-2013/
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OK, I'm tired, and not obsessed, anybody got any 4k ultra HD (uhd) Ces 2013 hybrid camera, display, TV, equipment news. That should get on Google . I'm just going to make a quick look through.

Now disappointment, a few years ago Sigma who supported and bought the nice (last decade) 3 layer color image sensor, said they were going to develop it for video, finally. Now they have released a 46 mp fixed lens camera (really 15mp+ with three color sensing layers) with, what do you think, 4k video, fullhd, hope still VGA:

http://www.steves-digicams.com/news/...3_merrill.html

Years ago, when we were doing DIY cinema cameras, the old second or third Gen x3 sensor could I calculated do 720p24, for those days several years ago, was OK. A hybrid 4:4:4 4k hybrid camera sensor (I think they were getting into mobile sensors) would have been cool.

OK,

Yippee, a 4/3rds mount android Polaroid smart camera, but no 4k

http://www.steves-digicams.com/camer...ra-review.html

Now this canon would make a good hybrid, but no 4k:

http://www.steves-digicams.com/camer...-n-review.html

Are you seeing a common theme here, yep, have not found a new mountable camera with 4k yet. Kikon J seriers has a number of new members, but not 4k, like they were talking about. I did not bother looking past the Steve's header articles for a number of these brands, because no 4k was mentioned. You would think at least one would. Maybe they will mprove. But let's see what everybody else is doing.
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Sony "Concept" 4k camera 240-600mb/s data rate, pretty serious stuff:

http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content...ons-Review.htm

I've seen the JVC GY-HMQ10 for around $3650 on line over here I think. So was hoping they would have a new model coming.

Now, a camcorder like this with 4k at least, would have been good:
http://www.camcorderinfo.com/News/JV...verio-Cams.htm

What a sexy looking camcorder.

Hmm, getting on our side the Polaroid 43rds camera is made by American Osaka, has the sensor in the lens, and multiple different lens mounts. Does this mean we could make a 4k sensor in camera lens (in hybrid vertical holding position even) and have enough power for it to process it, I jest, but why not?

http://www.43rumors.com/and-again-ne...laroid-im1836/
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Default Interesting 4k.

I'm getting to some low end 4k news.

There are many 4k sets from the majors, but not much pricing mentioned in the articles.

Gasses free 4k TV technology:
http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/08/s...eyes-on-video/
http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/07/v...hdtv-hands-on/

And smaller and 110 inch Hisense:

http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/07/h...0-inch-4k-set/

http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2013/01/hi...s-uhd-tvs-too/

Sony and Panasonic really cool Organic Light Emitting Diode (Oled) Uhd 4k TV's:

http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/07/e...ed-ultra-hdtv/
http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/08/p...eyes-on-video/

The shark from underneath that bit Steve Jobs and stopped him from going Oled (I think). Notice just how good the guy thinks the IGZO LCD display is:

http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/08/s...itors-eyes-on/

Sharp has bigger TV, but also a schedule to produce bigger igzo panels in 4k resolution, so don't know if this will be one.

Sony, "Affordable" 4k TV:
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2013/01/so...-as-any-4k-tv/
http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/07/s...unch-ces-2013/

2k bluray discs up scaled to 4k:
http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/07/s...ution-service/
When is 4k 4k?

Panasonic 20 inch 4 tablet prototype:
http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/08/p...blet-hands-on/
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2013/01/pa...rge-4k-tablet/

Slow processor, document processing, eyesight?

84 inch 4k touch computer table display (I'm looking into making something like these myself currently, but no 4k display).

http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/06/3...touch-display/

Mobile phone chip that can record 4k:
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2013/01/wh...ch-a-bad-idea/
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2013/01/me...00-processors/

I wonder how that would go in a 4k hybrid.
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